Dr. Andrew Huberman

But like, what is that?

And I think through the use of MDMA, you can, there seems to be this ability to develop empathogenic states to yourself.

But of course, the reason for

The clinical trials insisting that people stay in the eye mask and communicate their experience, maybe popping out of it every once in a while and talking with somebody in a trusted person in a way that can be helpful towards dealing with the trauma.

Is that the problem with having that much serotonin and that much dopamine in your system?

is that you can become empathic toward anything.

So we've all known people that take MDMA, listen to a particular soundtrack, and they're like, I'm gonna become a musician.

I love music.

And again, I'm not recommending anyone do MDMA, but in recent years, I've really changed my stance on psychedelics.

Five years ago, 10 years ago, I never would have had this discussion, certainly not with a microphone in front of my face, anything being recorded, would have worried about losing my job.

at Stanford or elsewhere.

But we now have many laboratories at Stanford and elsewhere that are doing work that is federally funded on these compounds.

And if you think about these compounds, while they have been used recreationally, are simply ways to adjust levels of neuromodulators in the brain, serotonin, dopamine, et cetera.

That's really all they are, although they do it very potently and therefore caution needs to be applied.

And as long as we're on that topic,

I should mention that ketamine, everyone's excited about ketamine.

When I was growing up, I was taught that there's a compound that's really dangerous.

It's called PCP, Phencyclidine.

They are the same compound.

They don't tell you this.