Dr. Anna Lembke

Right.

Yeah, and kids can get incredibly isolated.

They're up all night playing video games, watching YouTube, you know, sleeping during the day, getting suicidal.

So, I mean, I have had lots of patients where they actually have to stop out of school, come home and really get some very intensive treatment.

And, you know, I have no idea what your circumstance is.

So, you know, no way to make any specific recommendations.

But just to give you a sense of kind of the range of issues that occur.

Yeah, thanks, Kelly.

Oh, yeah.

I agree with everything that Sophie said.

I think this is really important work.

There are some glimmers of hope in that, you know, I and many others have been talking for more than a decade now about getting smartphones out of schools, K through 12, you know, so that kids don't have little slot machines in their pockets so that they can actually attend to learn and teachers can teach.

And we are seeing more and more schools around the world banning smartphones from schools.

So I think that's really good news.

But still what we have is this idea that integrating technology into the way that we teach will make the teaching better.

And yet all of the data, even beyond our parental instincts, all of the data are showing that reading ability is decreasing, mathematical ability is decreasing.

And even in the creative realm, kids are doing worse.

This I think we really have to look at and say,

Okay, you know, we all kind of thought, you know, getting technology and cool screens and pads and things would make our kids digitally literate, ready for the 21st century.

But actually, it's going in the opposite direction.