Dr. Anne Chappelle
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For example, carbon monoxide poisoning, that tends to mimic a flu, sometimes a stroke. Overexposure to thallium can mimic neurological diseases such as MS or Guillain-Barre syndrome. cyanide, mimicking heart attacks, seizures. So I think it's about us being kind of in tune with your own body and what feels right and what doesn't feel right.
For example, carbon monoxide poisoning, that tends to mimic a flu, sometimes a stroke. Overexposure to thallium can mimic neurological diseases such as MS or Guillain-Barre syndrome. cyanide, mimicking heart attacks, seizures. So I think it's about us being kind of in tune with your own body and what feels right and what doesn't feel right.
Certain insecticides can cause nerve damage, seizures, and coma. But usually with those, they can do a blood test and see, you know, maybe that your levels of this particular enzyme are impaired. But again, it's hard to figure this out. The other thing is that, I mean, I'm addicted to procedural medical dramas. and tox screen and CMC and blood and blah, blah, blah.
Certain insecticides can cause nerve damage, seizures, and coma. But usually with those, they can do a blood test and see, you know, maybe that your levels of this particular enzyme are impaired. But again, it's hard to figure this out. The other thing is that, I mean, I'm addicted to procedural medical dramas. and tox screen and CMC and blood and blah, blah, blah.
But that's for the common stuff. Like they're looking for the tox screen. They're looking for things like fentanyl and opioids and, you know, maybe some of these other agents that are commonly associated with an overdose.
But that's for the common stuff. Like they're looking for the tox screen. They're looking for things like fentanyl and opioids and, you know, maybe some of these other agents that are commonly associated with an overdose.
So it's not until there is a specific request or an indication and you actually have the samples to be able to say, no, I really need, you know, I need to look for X. And that's one of the reasons why whenever there is a suspicious death, it can take weeks and weeks for the tox screens to come back. Because, again, these are not necessarily common toxins that they're looking for.
So it's not until there is a specific request or an indication and you actually have the samples to be able to say, no, I really need, you know, I need to look for X. And that's one of the reasons why whenever there is a suspicious death, it can take weeks and weeks for the tox screens to come back. Because, again, these are not necessarily common toxins that they're looking for.
So it can be a little difficult, and you have to be persistent. Things like metals can accumulate in hair and bone. Other agents you can look at, like warfarin, which is a blood thinner that's commonly found in rat poison. So they can commonly see they can see that one pretty quickly. But some of these others, they'd really have to know what they're looking for.
So it can be a little difficult, and you have to be persistent. Things like metals can accumulate in hair and bone. Other agents you can look at, like warfarin, which is a blood thinner that's commonly found in rat poison. So they can commonly see they can see that one pretty quickly. But some of these others, they'd really have to know what they're looking for.
And that's that's the problem with some of these agents. You have to be a detective sometimes to really say, OK, what what is it that might have caused the presentation of certain adverse effects?
And that's that's the problem with some of these agents. You have to be a detective sometimes to really say, OK, what what is it that might have caused the presentation of certain adverse effects?
There would have been no reason necessarily to do it. Again, if he got this and then there were four or five other reports of overdoses or the same kind of symptoms presenting in a cluster in that particular area, there would have been no need, no reason to do that. Again, it can be very frustrating. And I think, you know, I don't know a lot about Jake, but the idea that
There would have been no reason necessarily to do it. Again, if he got this and then there were four or five other reports of overdoses or the same kind of symptoms presenting in a cluster in that particular area, there would have been no need, no reason to do that. Again, it can be very frustrating. And I think, you know, I don't know a lot about Jake, but the idea that
We would treat certain classes of people, a drug addict, a historically overweight person, make assumptions about their health, make assumptions about where they are in their medical journey or in their personal journey. I think that dictates a lot of care across the U.S. So it's not necessarily unexpected. Now, if you think that you were drugged or poisoned, you know, keep what you can.
We would treat certain classes of people, a drug addict, a historically overweight person, make assumptions about their health, make assumptions about where they are in their medical journey or in their personal journey. I think that dictates a lot of care across the U.S. So it's not necessarily unexpected. Now, if you think that you were drugged or poisoned, you know, keep what you can.
Pee in a clean glass jar. Store that in a cool, dark place. and really worked to create a timeline over several days. Again, this idea of what did you eat when and where, what were you doing at the time, everything you can remember for the last week. So this idea of, you know, advocating for yourself. And it sounds like Jake is really trying to do that and figure it out.
Pee in a clean glass jar. Store that in a cool, dark place. and really worked to create a timeline over several days. Again, this idea of what did you eat when and where, what were you doing at the time, everything you can remember for the last week. So this idea of, you know, advocating for yourself. And it sounds like Jake is really trying to do that and figure it out.
Unfortunately, you know, there could have been a whole multitude of things in his case and he could have just been on the brink of having an episode and whatever he took, took him over, took him over the edge. But it does make for an interesting question. I think our culture today, we always want to know why. So either we don't repeat it or we help other people.
Unfortunately, you know, there could have been a whole multitude of things in his case and he could have just been on the brink of having an episode and whatever he took, took him over, took him over the edge. But it does make for an interesting question. I think our culture today, we always want to know why. So either we don't repeat it or we help other people.