Dr. Aseem Malhotra

If it does, we need to do something about it because listen, we're all going to die at some point.

What we want to live our lives in the best health we can for as long as possible.

Right.

That's the, in many ways, that's probably more important than our longevity, right.

It's having good quality of life.

So that is something that I, uh, address with patients as well.

I think the arguments to be made on interpretations of the evidence, trust in the evidence, and different bits of evidence...

So all I can say, Mark, for me is that we all have our biases.

And you could argue that I have a bias because I have an obsession with lifestyle and I'm a foodie and I started cooking when I was 16.

I was taught by my dad.

And, you know, one of the reasons I got annoyed or pissed off in the hospital and got into this whole, my campaigning started about hospital and just, you know, why are we giving junk food to patients?

Because I also, as a doctor, was like frustrated.

I can't get any healthy food anywhere.

That could be my bias.

Fine.

But, and I accept that.

One of the things I do myself, and I think the reason I've been through a process where I've had to change my mind several times on saturated fat, on sugar, on low-fat diets, on statin prescriptions, on cholesterol, on something more recent and more controversial, which we're not talking about, is you have to have an element of humility.

But when I do that, my analysis myself, I try and counter my own arguments and then try and find a way of a nuance.

I can't really see a strong counter-argument.

And I'm not saying this from a place of hubris.