Dr. Aseem Malhotra

Ron Krauss.

Ron Krauss, sorry, Krauss, you're right.

And he showed there was an abnormal effect on lipids if your saturated fat consumption in obviously certain groups of people was more than 18% of your total calories, right?

So it's still very, very high.

But again, you're absolutely right.

That might happen with a certain subgroup of people.

I've seen, for example, a patient on a carnivore diet

who actually had something like that.

And when they reduced their saturated fat intake, their lipid profile got better.

That's all they changed.

So I agree with you.

There are going to be a subset of people.

What do you do with FH, the people with the familiar hyperlipidemia?

So let's just lay it out for people, right?

There are.

But, you know, you talk about ApoB and lipoprotein little a, which are all these other extra markers of risk that are added in.

Basic teaching in medical school, certainly what I teach medical students and junior doctors, right?

Don't organize a test unless it's going to change your management plan, right?

Because what's the point?

So you create unnecessary anxiety, for example, for some people.