Dr. Aseem Malhotra

I'm not saying don't do the test, but I just want us to think about that a little bit.

So 100%, I agree.

There are definitely certain... Yeah, so I think there's a nuance there again.

There are certain things where we know, okay, there's a very likely benefit here of you getting your insulin down, etc.

I think some of the other biomarkers, it's still in a certain area.

But again, Mark, you said that, okay, you're a guy...

And this is, if I was having a conversation with you and this is your preference of values, you want the data, that's your preference of values.

I want to know more and more and more.

And that's fine, Mark, I'm going to help you and let's do all these tests for you.

Somebody else comes in, you know, and then suddenly they come back.

And the thing is, I see this, this is what happens with the whole cholesterol hypothesis, right?

I've got patients coming to me for second opinion as a cardiologist.

I do, you know, international consults and virtual and whatever else all around the world.

And I talked to them and I just started to tell me what's been going on.

And they've been living in absolute fear of death for months.

And some of them break down in tears when I just say to them, listen, I've just done a cardiovascular risk here.

Your LDL cholesterol is so-called high, but it's not an issue.

And you're fine.

And your risk is only 2%.

And you can just see a sigh of relief and say, doctor, thank God.