Dr. Aseem Malhotra

I think that's probably what happened.

That's why it happened at that particular time.

So I texted Matt.

through Twitter, DM'd him.

I was like, Matt, really?

And he replied, Asim, I had no idea they were referring to you or Zoe Harkam.

And I was like, okay, this is very interesting.

So I kept that, obviously.

When the case then evolved and went to court, the lawyers for Zoe and Malcolm contacted me

And I gave them that evidence.

And apparently during the case, and Malcolm fed this back to me, Malcolm Kendrick, he said, this turned the judge.

Because they put Barney Kalman, who was the health editor on the stand, and essentially made him admit that, you know, that in a way that they had misled Matt Hancock because they hadn't told him.

Because if Matt knew, because I'm a, you know, for all intents and purposes.

So probably, so this is what really changed the case.

And I think that that is, yeah, that, well.

What were they coming after?

So this is basically based upon probably both Malcolm and Zoe and my public advocacy on the overprescription of statins, the lack of informed consent, the lack of access to the raw data, which is still an ongoing problem going over a decade or so.

So I think because this story and the statin saga had been getting more and more of an airing, and Mark, I've been publishing in medical journals on informed consent, and I've been publishing a lot about the prescription of statins and the conflicts of interest and not knowing the true benefits and harms, right?

Because as you've said already-

a lot of the data that we get from drug industry sponsored trials, if not most of it, is never independently evaluated.