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Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
331 total appearances

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

that the whole state is a community.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like there are twice as many people in the borough of Brooklyn as there are in the entire state of Maine.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

So the whole state is kind of like one town in a way, right?

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

I mean, there's a lot of diversity across the state in ecosystems, in industries that are present, right?

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But it's everyone's like one degree of separation or two at the max.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

So there's an intimacy there that's really sweet and also an accountability.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like you got to like not be a jerk because everyone will know.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And Maine is, I think this is true, maybe the first state that's been like really pumping the brakes on data centers until we have a plan for where all this electricity is going to come from.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Maine has high electric bills already.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And yeah, people are really concerned.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And that's actually been one of the most exciting new

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Sort of social activist things to watch because it came out of nowhere and it could so easily have been like we all just sleepwalk into this era.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And people were like, actually, we're not super down with these huge data centers in our communities using all our electricity, polluting the air as they like fire up gas turbines and using all of our electricity.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

While taking away our jobs.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Let's pause on this.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And so a bunch of states are doing that now.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But Maine's, yeah, charging ahead on all sorts of creative legislation.