Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
331 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But there's always a question of, like, how do you win versus how do you govern?

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Fundamentally, just get it done, right?

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like, do the work.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

The question is, like, how do we build momentum from place to place?

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Also, it is an affordability issue because solar is cheaper than oil and gas in most scenarios now.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like the economics of it makes sense.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

We need more solar and energy and storage, battery storage to go with it.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like that's the future.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And wind and geothermal.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

There's all these other options.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But like that's the economics pan out for that.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's like Texas and Iowa have the highest rates of wind and Texas has like the highest solar, like along with California.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's not because they're like a bunch of hippies.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's because it's making them money and it makes financial sense.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

So there's this false assumption that to do the pro-earth thing is to sacrifice profitability or affordability.

It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But it's just not true.