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Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

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331 total appearances

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But there's always a question of, like, how do you win versus how do you govern?

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Fundamentally, just get it done, right?

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like, do the work.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

The question is, like, how do we build momentum from place to place?

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Also, it is an affordability issue because solar is cheaper than oil and gas in most scenarios now.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like the economics of it makes sense.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

We need more solar and energy and storage, battery storage to go with it.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Right.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Like that's the future.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

And wind and geothermal.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Right.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

There's all these other options.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But like that's the economics pan out for that.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Right.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's like Texas and Iowa have the highest rates of wind and Texas has like the highest solar, like along with California.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Oh.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's not because they're like a bunch of hippies.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

It's because it's making them money and it makes financial sense.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

So there's this false assumption that to do the pro-earth thing is to sacrifice profitability or affordability.

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It's Open with Ilana Glazer
Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

But it's just not true.

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