Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

We have the apocalyptic versions of the future.

We don't have.

That's right.

As is my greatest wish, the rom-com with the hot shirtless solar installer.

Right.

It's almost like you could miss it.

It's as if it's not happening because it's not reflected in the cultural products that are reaching the most people.

I was just watching Landman.

Have you seen this by the same people who did Yellowstone?

And it's just like about the oil and gas industry and sort of like how amazing they are.

They've done for our country.

I thought you were saying the opposite.

No, no, no.

And there's like this scene with this environmentalist who's like a total dork who like has nothing to say as he's like, well, oil is the way and like all this stuff.

And it's just.

That is scary.

It's really scary.

Because all the representations of environmentalists we have in film and TV, they're usually like annoying nerds.

Like you don't want to invite to a party.

I'm like, can someone please be a cool environmentalist on the television?