Dr. Azadeh Khatibi
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Then the government, and actually the doctors were like, hey, it'd be good if doctors were licensed. We should have some level of licensure. And so the government, they went to the government and then the government created a licensure system. And that's why doctors have to be licensed in our states. And
Then the government, and actually the doctors were like, hey, it'd be good if doctors were licensed. We should have some level of licensure. And so the government, they went to the government and then the government created a licensure system. And that's why doctors have to be licensed in our states. And
the state then said, hey, you guys have the CME system, we're gonna require a certain number of hours every year that you guys have to learn. And so what has now happening is the government is saying, hey, in your CME, in every single CME course that you teach, you have to teach on implicit bias.
the state then said, hey, you guys have the CME system, we're gonna require a certain number of hours every year that you guys have to learn. And so what has now happening is the government is saying, hey, in your CME, in every single CME course that you teach, you have to teach on implicit bias.
So they've hijacked a private system, and now they're calling for government speech in that private system. And Rob Bunta, the attorney general, and his lawyers are arguing, and they've won it. They won it at the lower level, and we're appealing it in the higher court, in the appellate court. They're basically saying, we can mandate this speech because every physician knows this.
So they've hijacked a private system, and now they're calling for government speech in that private system. And Rob Bunta, the attorney general, and his lawyers are arguing, and they've won it. They won it at the lower level, and we're appealing it in the higher court, in the appellate court. They're basically saying, we can mandate this speech because every physician knows this.
Doctors who go to CME are engaging in government speech. And doctors listening to other doctors know that they're listening to government speech. So they're just making this stuff up. It's incredibly dangerous.
Doctors who go to CME are engaging in government speech. And doctors listening to other doctors know that they're listening to government speech. So they're just making this stuff up. It's incredibly dangerous.
They're basically saying you're speaking on behalf of the government when you teach CME. Did you know that, Dr. Pinsky? Did you know all these years you've been going to CME? You've been listening to government speakers speak?
They're basically saying you're speaking on behalf of the government when you teach CME. Did you know that, Dr. Pinsky? Did you know all these years you've been going to CME? You've been listening to government speakers speak?
Right, so the lower court has said- I want you to do something though.
Right, so the lower court has said- I want you to do something though.
Oh my God. And that wasn't, they weren't even mandating your speech at that point. They were just saying you have to take this course. So, I mean, that's why government should not get involved in medicine at all.
Oh my God. And that wasn't, they weren't even mandating your speech at that point. They were just saying you have to take this course. So, I mean, that's why government should not get involved in medicine at all.
Well, if anybody says you're racist, the comeback to that is implicit bias is a controversial topic. And there's people who created the implicit, the psychologists who created the implicit association test, those three, there's discussion and debate and difference among them on whether or not it contains the roots of prejudice or not.
Well, if anybody says you're racist, the comeback to that is implicit bias is a controversial topic. And there's people who created the implicit, the psychologists who created the implicit association test, those three, there's discussion and debate and difference among them on whether or not it contains the roots of prejudice or not.
So even the people who created the implicit association test that coined the term implicit bias have disagreements. So, and there's evidence that implicit bias training can even backfire and make people even more biased or resentful. So this is not something the government should be- This is not something the government should be involved in. It's opening the door to like the government.
So even the people who created the implicit association test that coined the term implicit bias have disagreements. So, and there's evidence that implicit bias training can even backfire and make people even more biased or resentful. So this is not something the government should be- This is not something the government should be involved in. It's opening the door to like the government.
Yeah. That's, I mean, what we've seen throughout history is that terrible things have happened when the government is involved in healthcare and deciding what should and should not be done. Whether it's the eugenics movement and forced sterilizing thousands of people, including Californians. California was the head of that, the opioid stuff that you're talking about. Yeah.
Yeah. That's, I mean, what we've seen throughout history is that terrible things have happened when the government is involved in healthcare and deciding what should and should not be done. Whether it's the eugenics movement and forced sterilizing thousands of people, including Californians. California was the head of that, the opioid stuff that you're talking about. Yeah.