Dr. Azadeh Khatibi
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When the paper came out, people were making, including Judge Jackson, Supreme Court Justice Jackson, talked about in one of her opinion judgments about how this lack of Or about how the death of black babies at higher rates at the hands of white doctors is a huge problem.
When the paper came out, people were making, including Judge Jackson, Supreme Court Justice Jackson, talked about in one of her opinion judgments about how this lack of Or about how the death of black babies at higher rates at the hands of white doctors is a huge problem.
And really focusing on like, there's some biases and there's some huge problems here in terms of the mortality rate of black people that we need to adjust, to attend to. especially implying that there's like all this subconscious bias of white people towards black people that's affecting their mortality rates.
And really focusing on like, there's some biases and there's some huge problems here in terms of the mortality rate of black people that we need to adjust, to attend to. especially implying that there's like all this subconscious bias of white people towards black people that's affecting their mortality rates.
However, Do No Harm, which is actually one of my co-plaintiffs in the AB 241 case that we're appealing right now, Do No Harm got the email records, they FOIA, God bless them, they FOIAed the email records of the authors involved in the study. And what they found is that when they were writing out the study,
However, Do No Harm, which is actually one of my co-plaintiffs in the AB 241 case that we're appealing right now, Do No Harm got the email records, they FOIA, God bless them, they FOIAed the email records of the authors involved in the study. And what they found is that when they were writing out the study,
One of the models that they did showed that white babies died more under the care of a black physician And what Brian or Brad Greenwood, the lead author, said in the comment section when they were editing the paper together, he said, I want to delete this. I'm deleting it because I don't want to take away from our main argument. I want to strengthen our narrative.
One of the models that they did showed that white babies died more under the care of a black physician And what Brian or Brad Greenwood, the lead author, said in the comment section when they were editing the paper together, he said, I want to delete this. I'm deleting it because I don't want to take away from our main argument. I want to strengthen our narrative.
Well, that's, you know, yeah. He said, I want to strengthen the narrative of saving black babies. And I don't want to undermine that narrative. It's just shocking to me, right? Because as a scientist, yeah, well, it's not shocking, but in a way it's shocking, right? The ethical person who wants to just look at the data.
Well, that's, you know, yeah. He said, I want to strengthen the narrative of saving black babies. And I don't want to undermine that narrative. It's just shocking to me, right? Because as a scientist, yeah, well, it's not shocking, but in a way it's shocking, right? The ethical person who wants to just look at the data.
And we, of course, understand that models can be twisted to say whatever you want them to say a lot of the time. But you should be pursuing the truth, the essence as close as possible as truth. And these ideas of stories and narratives are just ridiculous. And I wonder if there had been a medical doctor, maybe, maybe,
And we, of course, understand that models can be twisted to say whatever you want them to say a lot of the time. But you should be pursuing the truth, the essence as close as possible as truth. And these ideas of stories and narratives are just ridiculous. And I wonder if there had been a medical doctor, maybe, maybe,
they would have, at least someone would have pointed out, wait a minute, we have to show what the data is actually showing. We can't massage the data or leave parts out to fit a narrative story. I'm a storyteller, right? So I'm a filmmaker. I love telling stories, but those are like two very different parts of the brain.
they would have, at least someone would have pointed out, wait a minute, we have to show what the data is actually showing. We can't massage the data or leave parts out to fit a narrative story. I'm a storyteller, right? So I'm a filmmaker. I love telling stories, but those are like two very different parts of the brain.
And there's, you know, you have to, there's one where you want to show people and lead them emotionally, et cetera. Then there's the one where you're like, based on facts, that part of your brain where it's like, let's do fact-based, let's hear to the ethics.
And there's, you know, you have to, there's one where you want to show people and lead them emotionally, et cetera. Then there's the one where you're like, based on facts, that part of your brain where it's like, let's do fact-based, let's hear to the ethics.
But it shows you like what the layers of convoluted like egoic desires that are feeding this quote unquote science, right? It's no longer science because there is like this egoic desire for an outcome, right? Or that myopic focus. It's like religion.
But it shows you like what the layers of convoluted like egoic desires that are feeding this quote unquote science, right? It's no longer science because there is like this egoic desire for an outcome, right? Or that myopic focus. It's like religion.
I'm done.
I'm done.