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Dr. Campbell Price

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

So that's where Kadesh is.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And there are clearly...

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

Yeah, he's fighting against the Hittites and there are various changes in leadership.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

So there does come a point in the 20s, Regnald years 20 and up, where maybe he's a little bit older and maybe he's thinking, I don't want to keep going back.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And that is when you get a more decisive treaty and you get a sense that other states in the ancient Levant are more used to compromise, whereas the Egyptians want all or nothing.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

Maybe that's just the nature of what's recorded, or maybe that's actually the social reality, the political reality in other parts of the world.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

But in Egypt, they accept a peace treaty which is sealed by a marriage, a diplomatic marriage.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And this is fascinating because we do have an insight into the exchanges between the royal courts.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And so you have Ramses II, who is a very wealthy man,

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

individual who's commissioning all these temples and statues and is really you know is one of the great rulers of the ancient world pleading with not pleading but kind of pleading pleading poverty and saying he wants the dowry of the incoming bride to be more than what is being offered and so it seems that the bride's mother the queen mother essentially

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

is pushing the hard bargaining.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

So we shouldn't just imagine these conflicts are played out in the battlefield.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

Yes, they are, and there are repeated attempts to secure Kadesh.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

But latterly, maybe when the fight, the fire leaves Ramesses, he is more content to seal things with a diplomatic marriage.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And that is a one-sided thing because the king of Egypt would never give a daughter of his own.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

An Egyptian princess is never sent to a non-Egyptian court, but it is acceptable for a non-Egyptian princess with a hefty dowry to come to Egypt.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

And that is considered a victory.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

Yeah, let's just call it a draw and we'll be mutually beneficial.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

I think what actually happens in terms of on the ground, you know, we're talking about relatively small areas of land.

The Ancients
Ramesses the Great: Death of a Dynasty

There must be a kind of, the Egyptians think they secure some assurance of loyalty and then they leave and then sides are switched and it's like this Punch and Judy show.