Dr. Caroline Leaf

is you can take the spirit and the soul, and you can say the spirit is the sort of deeper part.

But I prefer to explain the soul and mind as the same thing.

I think it pretty much is the same thing.

It's our ability to think, feel, and choose.

But you can look at it in this way.

You have a messy mind, and you have a wise mind.

Every human...

at their core, their spiritual core, has this wisdom.

And this wisdom is this, in neurobiology and neurophysiology, we talk about being wired for love, that the brain and the body doesn't have any structural design for anything that is toxic.

unmanaged toxicity.

So we have design for making a mess and repairing the mess, but not staying in a mess.

So we have the design for maybe getting into an argument because that's the messiness of life.

But if we stay in the argument, we don't have design for that.

What we have design for is...

having the argument and then fixing the argument, managing the mess.

That's why I talk about cleaning up the mental mess.

We're designed to clean up the mental mess.

And that's a very soulish, spiritual thing that we're doing.

And we're using the brain and the body.

So without the brain and the body, we can't express ourselves.