Dr. Chris Palmer

And it's not because those foods are so delicious. So some people will say that. They're just really delicious. Well, grandmas made delicious food 100 years ago. We had Thanksgiving celebrations 100 years ago.

People weren't obese at nearly the rates that we have now. So it's not just delicious food versus bland salad. That's not the decision point. The decision point is the ultra-processing There's lots of debates about what exactly is happening, but there's a researcher at the NIH, Kevin Hall, who's done some research on ultra-processed foods.

People weren't obese at nearly the rates that we have now. So it's not just delicious food versus bland salad. That's not the decision point. The decision point is the ultra-processing There's lots of debates about what exactly is happening, but there's a researcher at the NIH, Kevin Hall, who's done some research on ultra-processed foods.

People weren't obese at nearly the rates that we have now. So it's not just delicious food versus bland salad. That's not the decision point. The decision point is the ultra-processing There's lots of debates about what exactly is happening, but there's a researcher at the NIH, Kevin Hall, who's done some research on ultra-processed foods.

He basically takes people, locks them up in a metabolic ward and feeds them, explicitly feeds them the exact same macros. So the same protein, fat, carbohydrate. Calories. Calories, everything. Giving them like 6,000, the option of 6,000 calories a day. 6,000, wow. With meals and snacks and then just says eat whatever you want. Try not to lose or gain weight. Just eat whatever you want.

He basically takes people, locks them up in a metabolic ward and feeds them, explicitly feeds them the exact same macros. So the same protein, fat, carbohydrate. Calories. Calories, everything. Giving them like 6,000, the option of 6,000 calories a day. 6,000, wow. With meals and snacks and then just says eat whatever you want. Try not to lose or gain weight. Just eat whatever you want.

He basically takes people, locks them up in a metabolic ward and feeds them, explicitly feeds them the exact same macros. So the same protein, fat, carbohydrate. Calories. Calories, everything. Giving them like 6,000, the option of 6,000 calories a day. 6,000, wow. With meals and snacks and then just says eat whatever you want. Try not to lose or gain weight. Just eat whatever you want.

He did a study that was published over four years ago now, and when he gave them unprocessed foods, same macros, same calorie content, all that, when he gave them unprocessed foods versus ultra-processed foods, on average, the people ate 500 calories more of the ultra-processed versions, and they gained on average about two kilograms, which is about almost five pounds. In just two weeks.

He did a study that was published over four years ago now, and when he gave them unprocessed foods, same macros, same calorie content, all that, when he gave them unprocessed foods versus ultra-processed foods, on average, the people ate 500 calories more of the ultra-processed versions, and they gained on average about two kilograms, which is about almost five pounds. In just two weeks.

He did a study that was published over four years ago now, and when he gave them unprocessed foods, same macros, same calorie content, all that, when he gave them unprocessed foods versus ultra-processed foods, on average, the people ate 500 calories more of the ultra-processed versions, and they gained on average about two kilograms, which is about almost five pounds. In just two weeks.

in just two weeks. When they were given the real whole food, on average, they lost about the five pounds. He just began replicating this study. He's not done with it, but he just published some interim results. The interim results are even worse. When the subjects were given the ultra-processed, highly palatable foods, on average, they ate 1,000 calories extra a day.

in just two weeks. When they were given the real whole food, on average, they lost about the five pounds. He just began replicating this study. He's not done with it, but he just published some interim results. The interim results are even worse. When the subjects were given the ultra-processed, highly palatable foods, on average, they ate 1,000 calories extra a day.

in just two weeks. When they were given the real whole food, on average, they lost about the five pounds. He just began replicating this study. He's not done with it, but he just published some interim results. The interim results are even worse. When the subjects were given the ultra-processed, highly palatable foods, on average, they ate 1,000 calories extra a day.

The interesting thing is that he asked the participants through the whole study, how do you like the food that we're giving you? How full are you? How hungry are you? How are you feeling? The ratings on all of the different foods were similar. They were not different. So when people were being given real whole foods, it wasn't that they were complaining saying this food sucks.

The interesting thing is that he asked the participants through the whole study, how do you like the food that we're giving you? How full are you? How hungry are you? How are you feeling? The ratings on all of the different foods were similar. They were not different. So when people were being given real whole foods, it wasn't that they were complaining saying this food sucks.

The interesting thing is that he asked the participants through the whole study, how do you like the food that we're giving you? How full are you? How hungry are you? How are you feeling? The ratings on all of the different foods were similar. They were not different. So when people were being given real whole foods, it wasn't that they were complaining saying this food sucks.

They weren't saying, I'm hungry all the time. They weren't saying any of that. It's just they stopped eating because their metabolism was healthier and their brain told them, you're full, you're done, stop eating. When they were eating the ultra-processed stuff, there are very likely, based on that research alone, I think it's fair to say, there are chemicals added

They weren't saying, I'm hungry all the time. They weren't saying any of that. It's just they stopped eating because their metabolism was healthier and their brain told them, you're full, you're done, stop eating. When they were eating the ultra-processed stuff, there are very likely, based on that research alone, I think it's fair to say, there are chemicals added

They weren't saying, I'm hungry all the time. They weren't saying any of that. It's just they stopped eating because their metabolism was healthier and their brain told them, you're full, you're done, stop eating. When they were eating the ultra-processed stuff, there are very likely, based on that research alone, I think it's fair to say, there are chemicals added

that just make the foods hyper-palatable or addictive. Now, when I say that, most people are like, well, yeah, we kind of get that. That's probably true. If I'm selling food, if I'm a food company CEO, what's my goal? Sell the most food possible. Get people to eat the whole bag so that they have to go back to the grocery store tomorrow and get another bag. And then the next day, get another bag.