Dr. Christopher Gardner

There's all kinds of words out there. And clearly, one of the ones that doesn't go over well is vegan. Vegan is very polarizing. And a lot of that is because the vegan community... An important reason many of them are vegan is animal rights and welfare. And it becomes sort of a condescending thing. Oh my God, you're so unethical and immoral. You slaughter animals and eat them.

I am holier than thou. I don't.

I am holier than thou. I don't.

I am holier than thou. I don't.

I have been plant-based vegan for many, many years, and I haven't blown up any buildings, and I haven't thrown any red paint on anybody wearing a fur. But because that was so polarizing, Recently – and I think this is going to have a backlash and it's going to be failed. People have been using plant-based as a different word for vegan. Just like, oh, we're not the polarizing group.

I have been plant-based vegan for many, many years, and I haven't blown up any buildings, and I haven't thrown any red paint on anybody wearing a fur. But because that was so polarizing, Recently – and I think this is going to have a backlash and it's going to be failed. People have been using plant-based as a different word for vegan. Just like, oh, we're not the polarizing group.

I have been plant-based vegan for many, many years, and I haven't blown up any buildings, and I haven't thrown any red paint on anybody wearing a fur. But because that was so polarizing, Recently – and I think this is going to have a backlash and it's going to be failed. People have been using plant-based as a different word for vegan. Just like, oh, we're not the polarizing group.

We're the plant-based, which is not polarizing. So I've been doing this for 30 years. When I said plant-based for the last 20 years – I meant most of its plants and some of its dairy and some of its meat. So I actually use it differently than what it has just morphed into recently. So when I say whole food plant-based diet, that could be 25% animal products. It could be 30% animal products.

We're the plant-based, which is not polarizing. So I've been doing this for 30 years. When I said plant-based for the last 20 years – I meant most of its plants and some of its dairy and some of its meat. So I actually use it differently than what it has just morphed into recently. So when I say whole food plant-based diet, that could be 25% animal products. It could be 30% animal products.

We're the plant-based, which is not polarizing. So I've been doing this for 30 years. When I said plant-based for the last 20 years – I meant most of its plants and some of its dairy and some of its meat. So I actually use it differently than what it has just morphed into recently. So when I say whole food plant-based diet, that could be 25% animal products. It could be 30% animal products.

It could be 10%. It could be zero animal products. It would be mostly plants. This is sort of Michael Pollan's old eat food, not too much, mostly plants. So... That's what my research would suggest. The vegans did better than the omnivores in our twin study that was featured on Netflix. The Mediterranean versus the keto diet, it's a little more subtle. We might have to get into that.

It could be 10%. It could be zero animal products. It would be mostly plants. This is sort of Michael Pollan's old eat food, not too much, mostly plants. So... That's what my research would suggest. The vegans did better than the omnivores in our twin study that was featured on Netflix. The Mediterranean versus the keto diet, it's a little more subtle. We might have to get into that.

It could be 10%. It could be zero animal products. It would be mostly plants. This is sort of Michael Pollan's old eat food, not too much, mostly plants. So... That's what my research would suggest. The vegans did better than the omnivores in our twin study that was featured on Netflix. The Mediterranean versus the keto diet, it's a little more subtle. We might have to get into that.

The low-carb versus low-fat was very specifically for weight loss. So another issue here is, you know, what's the goal? Is it a weight loss thing? Is it a cardio amount? You have to think about the exposure and the population. So the DietFit study, my most famous study with the 600 people, is really fun to work.

The low-carb versus low-fat was very specifically for weight loss. So another issue here is, you know, what's the goal? Is it a weight loss thing? Is it a cardio amount? You have to think about the exposure and the population. So the DietFit study, my most famous study with the 600 people, is really fun to work.

The low-carb versus low-fat was very specifically for weight loss. So another issue here is, you know, what's the goal? Is it a weight loss thing? Is it a cardio amount? You have to think about the exposure and the population. So the DietFit study, my most famous study with the 600 people, is really fun to work.

We had sort of unlimited funds, mostly from NIH, but some from the Nutrition Science Initiative that Peter Attia and Gary Tobes led. It's okay if I go here just for a minute. I had done another study before that called the A to Z study. And A was Atkins, and T was a traditional health professional's approach, and O was Ornish, and Z was Zone.

We had sort of unlimited funds, mostly from NIH, but some from the Nutrition Science Initiative that Peter Attia and Gary Tobes led. It's okay if I go here just for a minute. I had done another study before that called the A to Z study. And A was Atkins, and T was a traditional health professional's approach, and O was Ornish, and Z was Zone.

We had sort of unlimited funds, mostly from NIH, but some from the Nutrition Science Initiative that Peter Attia and Gary Tobes led. It's okay if I go here just for a minute. I had done another study before that called the A to Z study. And A was Atkins, and T was a traditional health professional's approach, and O was Ornish, and Z was Zone.

And three of those were popular books that were bestsellers, and they were wildly different in carbs and fats. Atkins was super low carb. Ornish was super high carb. Zone was kind of in the middle. And the traditional health professionals approach was sort of the control. It had 311 women who did it for a year. And it was a weight loss study.