Dr. Christopher Gardner
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I'm going to find people who are lactose intolerant, and I'm going to give them your raw milk, some commercial milk, and soy milk as sort of an extra control here. And all we're going to test for is symptoms. And we actually had to have some focus groups up front. Most of my studies are done in a way that I think this is going to help you, but I'm not sure.
I'm going to find people who are lactose intolerant, and I'm going to give them your raw milk, some commercial milk, and soy milk as sort of an extra control here. And all we're going to test for is symptoms. And we actually had to have some focus groups up front. Most of my studies are done in a way that I think this is going to help you, but I'm not sure.
I'm going to find people who are lactose intolerant, and I'm going to give them your raw milk, some commercial milk, and soy milk as sort of an extra control here. And all we're going to test for is symptoms. And we actually had to have some focus groups up front. Most of my studies are done in a way that I think this is going to help you, but I'm not sure.
In this particular study, if you're going to do all three harms, I know I'm going to hurt you. You're lactose intolerant. I'm going to ask you to drink cow's milk. I need you to have GI distress so that I can see if on the raw milk you don't and compared to the soy milk, you won't. So in our focus groups, we asked... I usually don't pay people to be in our studies.
In this particular study, if you're going to do all three harms, I know I'm going to hurt you. You're lactose intolerant. I'm going to ask you to drink cow's milk. I need you to have GI distress so that I can see if on the raw milk you don't and compared to the soy milk, you won't. So in our focus groups, we asked... I usually don't pay people to be in our studies.
In this particular study, if you're going to do all three harms, I know I'm going to hurt you. You're lactose intolerant. I'm going to ask you to drink cow's milk. I need you to have GI distress so that I can see if on the raw milk you don't and compared to the soy milk, you won't. So in our focus groups, we asked... I usually don't pay people to be in our studies.
I usually give them all the results of the studies and they like that. But I said, I'm going to hurt you. So how much would I have to pay you? And they said, yeah. And I said, how much? And they said, well, 250 bucks would be okay, depending on how long this thing is. And we sort of talked about the duration and it had an interesting design. So there's a standard test for lactose intolerance.
I usually give them all the results of the studies and they like that. But I said, I'm going to hurt you. So how much would I have to pay you? And they said, yeah. And I said, how much? And they said, well, 250 bucks would be okay, depending on how long this thing is. And we sort of talked about the duration and it had an interesting design. So there's a standard test for lactose intolerance.
I usually give them all the results of the studies and they like that. But I said, I'm going to hurt you. So how much would I have to pay you? And they said, yeah. And I said, how much? And they said, well, 250 bucks would be okay, depending on how long this thing is. And we sort of talked about the duration and it had an interesting design. So there's a standard test for lactose intolerance.
It's objective. It's a hydrogen breath test.
It's objective. It's a hydrogen breath test.
It's objective. It's a hydrogen breath test.
and so you have to drink 16 ounces of milk in one setting fairly fast and then you every half hour breathe into a tube capture the gas and put it into this breathalyzer and it'll tell you if there's hydrogen there and if you have not digested the lactose it'll go to your colon the microbes will eat it up it'll generate hydrogen you'll absorb that and you'll exhale it so it's a very objective test of whether you are or aren't digesting your lactose
and so you have to drink 16 ounces of milk in one setting fairly fast and then you every half hour breathe into a tube capture the gas and put it into this breathalyzer and it'll tell you if there's hydrogen there and if you have not digested the lactose it'll go to your colon the microbes will eat it up it'll generate hydrogen you'll absorb that and you'll exhale it so it's a very objective test of whether you are or aren't digesting your lactose
and so you have to drink 16 ounces of milk in one setting fairly fast and then you every half hour breathe into a tube capture the gas and put it into this breathalyzer and it'll tell you if there's hydrogen there and if you have not digested the lactose it'll go to your colon the microbes will eat it up it'll generate hydrogen you'll absorb that and you'll exhale it so it's a very objective test of whether you are or aren't digesting your lactose
So they said, yeah, we would do this if the dose after we did the test was four ounces of milk one day and then eight, 12, 16, 20, 24. And I said, it's only going to be a week. And you can stop whenever the symptoms are intolerable. I don't want you to be in pain for this. You're not kicked out of the study. I'm really curious what dose it would take for you to react to this.
So they said, yeah, we would do this if the dose after we did the test was four ounces of milk one day and then eight, 12, 16, 20, 24. And I said, it's only going to be a week. And you can stop whenever the symptoms are intolerable. I don't want you to be in pain for this. You're not kicked out of the study. I'm really curious what dose it would take for you to react to this.
So they said, yeah, we would do this if the dose after we did the test was four ounces of milk one day and then eight, 12, 16, 20, 24. And I said, it's only going to be a week. And you can stop whenever the symptoms are intolerable. I don't want you to be in pain for this. You're not kicked out of the study. I'm really curious what dose it would take for you to react to this.
And on the soy milk, you won't react at all. There's no lactose. So it'll just be this question between the cow milk, the commercial one, and the raw milk. So the first part of this study was recruiting. And so we had to say, to be eligible for this study, you have to fail the hydrogen breath test, and you have to complain about symptoms.
And on the soy milk, you won't react at all. There's no lactose. So it'll just be this question between the cow milk, the commercial one, and the raw milk. So the first part of this study was recruiting. And so we had to say, to be eligible for this study, you have to fail the hydrogen breath test, and you have to complain about symptoms.