Dr. Christopher Shade

And I'm like, we're bringing it to more people.

They'll always be the highest end stuff.

and you know people talking about the deepest uh ecology of agriculture but you know if you're all you know the real purists are all over here and the rest of the world's over there you're not doing anything for the world and so you've got to bring that conversation along and the the

The lead end of it is going to be a little diluted, but it's going to enter them into a place where they're going to look for more and they're going to want to understand more and they're going to want to get cleaner stuff.

You know, I think it can.

It just needs to be...

You know, it really needs to be, I don't know what the word, you know, focused and not just driven by quick profits.

Because, you know, when I was, you know, training and when I was growing vegetables, you know, it was real intense.

It was French intensive organic biodynamic is what I did.

And you could get an incredible amount off a small amount of area, but you need more labor on.

on the farms and you know used to be 40 of the population was in agriculture and now less than two are and so 98 of the people are just kind of jerking off trading services you know and not making the raw materials of life and then they're having to do all this trading to make money to pay for where they live and their electricity and their gas and their car and stuff

And if more people move back into a communal farming structure where they're living on the farm and producing and they're not having to make money to make all those extra payments, if we figure a way to do that as a society, then we'll be able to do that.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

But, you know, if you're going to the farm and then selling the stuff and then going back to the place you're paying rent and paying for the car and all that, we've got to fold the living together into the production so that the people working there don't need to make as much money individually to live.

Other than the food system, what other big issues are you seeing?

I mean, toxins in general, you know, are just so widespread and part of us, you know, wanting to have, you know, perfect lawns and perfect landscaping and everything looking good and, you know, where I am really dry, but everybody's got, you know, grass and stuff, you know.

Living more with the land, you know, things they call xeriscaping is having the plants that would live there, live there and not trying to do so much.

And the less you're trying to make it, you know, a desert look like the East Coast, the less chemicals you got to use.

And so that's me in Vegas.