Dr. Colman Noctor

And that's fine.

And people should absolutely shop around till you see what fits you.

Yeah.

And it's oftentimes the kind of how many sessions will this take for this to go?

And you did the whole how long is a piece of string answer.

But it genuinely is because it's it's so dependent on how open they are, how open they are to change.

And look, you know, you might be doing some wonderful work with somebody and then something catastrophic happens in their lives that sets them back.

and you're trying, you have to kind of maybe do a restart on that.

But yeah, no, and look, you can do guidance stuff and say, like in a crisis situation, people would oftentimes ring me and I'd say, right, bang, A, B, C, D, do that and see if you can, like, let's just manage the next 24 hours, blah, blah, blah.

But for the more longstanding stuff,

it tends to be much more sustainable if they come to the solution themselves and they can come around to the idea and take some convincing.

And sometimes the other thing is you have to fail sometimes to realize.

I was telling my teenage...

late teenage patients this, right?

So when I was in my early twenties, I wanted a Honda Prelude car.

But it was a 2.2 liter petrol, like uneconomical thing.

And I was obsessed with this car.

I want this car, I want this car.

Everyone told me, you'll be broke if you buy that car.

It's ridiculous.