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Well, first of all, you get a tremendous shock.
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And what that's going to translate into is a bit of a shot of adrenaline.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And I think this is really the so-called benefit, but it doesn't necessarily translate into any benefit in terms of your physiology or performance and so forth.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Now, if you take a cold bath or a cold shower, a couple of things are happening.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
One is you're going to stimulate vasoconstriction.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So if anything, it's going to make it a little bit more difficult for your body to get rid of heat because you're shutting off your avenues of heat loss.
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If you're in a true cold bath, the overall surface area of your body is so great that it doesn't matter if you've acid constricted, you're still going to lose heat.
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The primary sites of heat loss, which we're going to get into, are the palms of your hands, the soles of your feet, and the upper part of your face.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And the reason these are avenues for heat loss is they're underlain by special blood vessels.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And these blood vessels are able to shunt the blood from the arteries, which are coming from the heart, directly to the veins, which are returning to the heart, and bypassing the capillaries, which are the nutritive vessels, but high resistance.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you can tell when you shake someone's hand what his or her thermal status is.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The hand's hot or it's cold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, there are differences that are more physical than anything else.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So if you are in a cold bath and you're still, you develop a boundary layer.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's best to explain it in terms of a hot bath because everybody's experienced that.
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You get into a hot bath and, oh, my God, it's really hot.
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almost painful.
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And then you sit down and eventually it doesn't feel so hot anymore because the still water, which is close to your skin, is coming into equilibrium with your skin.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So it's like having a blanket on you or an insulator on you.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And then if you move around, you disturb that still water layer, you feel the hot temperature again.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Got it.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Yeah.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But I think getting back to your original question about benefits, you have to keep in mind whether you're talking about aerobic activity or anaerobic activity, if you're referring to performance and exercise and so forth.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So if you're doing aerobic activity that you can sustain for a long time, your production of heat is rising gradually and is being distributed throughout your body.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So eventually your body temperature is going to come up to a level that's going to impair your performance.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So the benefit of a cold bath or a cold shower before aerobic activity is that you increase the capacity of your body mass to absorb that excess heat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I see.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Sure.
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It'll take them longer to get to the sweat point and to heat up.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And what will that translate to in terms of a performance benefit?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, it could increase your speed or it depends on how you use that benefit.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Some people are pacers.
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They will go at the same pace and then they will go farther.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Or some people are forcers.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
They will take that advantage and use it up as fast as they can.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So they will go faster, but not necessarily farther.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
For the anaerobic athlete, and let's say they're doing several sets, their core temperature is not going to rise that fast because it's only certain muscles which are being used.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But the temperature of those muscles will go up.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So it's a local effect.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Right.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And then during rest, that heat will leave the muscle, but it's not fast.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And certainly the heat can't leave the muscle very fast while you're working out because when the muscle contracts, it squeezes the blood vessels.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And the only way heat gets out of a muscle is in the blood.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And your muscle metabolism can go up 50 or 60 fold during anaerobic activity.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
That means the heat production in the muscle goes up 50 or 60 fold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The blood flow to that muscle cannot go up 50 or 60 fold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you literally have the capacity to cook your muscles.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So to keep you from damaging your muscle,
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
by hyperthermia, we have fail-safe mechanisms.
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And one of those fail-safe mechanisms is an enzyme which is critical for getting fuel, in other words, the results of metabolism of glucose, getting that fuel into the mitochondria, which is making our major coinage of energy exchange, ATP.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So that particular enzyme is temperature sensitive.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So when the muscle temperature gets above 39 or 39.5, it shuts off.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that essentially shuts off the fuel supply to the mitochondria.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
That's when you cannot do one more rep.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The most immediate, the most immediate impairment of muscle activity, muscle fatigue, in other words, is the rise in temperature of the muscle.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, you will still have a fatigue curve with your upper body.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that will be influenced by any rise in temperature that has been generated by your lower body exercise.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's one of them.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And it's a quick one.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Because your body surface is a very good insulator.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The skin, the fascia, the muscles underneath, they're all very good insulators.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that's why I said earlier that the way the heat gets out of the muscle is in the blood.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Sure, you can do that, but you can calculate how much heat that can absorb.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And you can't continue drinking liters of ice water.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You're going to dilute your blood and have other problems.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But yes, it'll help.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Sure, it will help.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But it doesn't have the full capacity you will need.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, you have to understand something about our thermoregulatory system.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
We have a thermostat, just like you have a thermostat in your house, and that thermostat is in the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's called the preoptic anterior hypothalamus.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It does many things in terms of physiological regulation, but it serves as a thermostat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Now, that thermostat has to have information.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It has to have input.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Where does that input come from?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It comes from our overall body surface where we sense temperature.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So one of the things that can happen when you're overheated
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
is that you can send in a cold stimulus to your thermostat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that's sort of like wanting to cool your house by putting a wet washcloth over your thermostat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's doing the wrong thing.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So we've actually had experiences where we've had people exercising, getting overheated, and then cooling the body surface.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And they say, it feels great.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
This is fantastic.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And their core temperature is going up.
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So what can happen if you, let's say, cool the torso with an ice vest, you can actually cause vasoconstriction of your portals, your heat loss portals.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So that's what impairs the rate at which you're losing heat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It feels good.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Now, back to the head.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
That's really interesting.
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The major blood flow to the brain comes up four arteries through the neck.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
There's the carotid arteries and there's the vertebral arteries.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So when you put a cold towel around the neck, you're going to be putting a cold stimulus into the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, that's great for protecting the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You want to protect the brain, but it's also going to make you feel cooler than you are.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you will think you're ready to go again quickly when you've just essentially cooled the thermostat.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, if they stop the cooling, then that hot blood from the body core is going to go to the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Interesting.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Yeah, you can feel great and have a dangerously hyperthermic temperature.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But I should say that when you get into the danger zone, things get bad fast.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
What are some of the symptoms that people could be on the lookout for, for hyperthermia?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Essentially, it's almost ironic that if individuals are transitioning into heat stroke, they actually vasoconstrict and they stop sweating.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that's a pathological situation.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I couldn't begin to explain it.
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But essentially, you are just feeling exhausted.
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You're feeling miserable.
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The heart rate is very high.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Your heart rate goes up as your core temperature goes up, called cardiac drift.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you just feel rotten.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's not a danger signal that you can translate immediately into, nope, I'm going into heat stroke.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
That's why people can overcome their bad feeling with motivation to continue going, to work harder.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So there have been a number of high-profile athletic deaths due to heat stroke that were during practice.
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Not in competition when people are really trying to do it, but in practice, which shows they were just motivated to push forward.
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Where the portals are, are in the glabrous skin.
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Big word, okay?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Glabrous just means no hair.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So it's the hairless skin.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You say, well, most of my body is without hair.
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No.
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No.
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Most of your body has hair follicles.
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We are mammals.
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Mammals have fur.
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We've lost the fur, but we still have that hairy skin phenotype all over our body, except for those skin surfaces where our mammal relatives didn't have fur.
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So the pads of the feet.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And for the primates, upper part of the face.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
For rabbits, no portions of the ears, the inner surface of the ears.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I never thought about that.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Our mammalian relatives can't lose heat over their overall body surface.
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So probably very early on in mammalian evolution...
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They evolved these special blood vessels in the limited surface areas that don't have fur.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And as I said, what these blood vessels are, are shunts between the arteries and the veins.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Arteries and veins are both low resistance vessels.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you can have high flow rate.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Capillaries, which normally are between arteries and veins, are high resistance because they're very tiny.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
If you are warm and you look at the palms of your hands, they are fairly red.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The backs of your hands aren't.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You don't have these vessels in the backs of your hands.
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Now, if you take a glass, like a water tumbler, right, and you grab it, you can see if you squeeze a little bit, the hand goes white.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
that's because you've shut off that blood flow.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So if you're bicycling on a hot day, you don't want to be grabbing your handlebars all the time.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You want to periodically... Well, this is important.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, gloves definitely impede heat loss from the hands, just as socks impede heat loss from the feet.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So if you want to maximize your heat loss, you want to have as thin of protectors as possible on your hands.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And, of course, the feet are more problematical because you have to be using them in certain ways.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Interesting.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Let me introduce one more thing because you asked earlier about the pouring of water on the head.
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One of the things which is not appreciated fully is that the blood which is perfusing these special blood vessels in the face above the beard line, that's the non-hairy skin,
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And that blood then returns in the venous supply to the heart, but it actually does it in a very strange way.
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We go through the skull, okay?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And that's why the scalp bleeds a lot if you cut the scalp.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And these blood vessels were...
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primarily thought to be ways that blood is leaving the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But when you're overheated, the direction of flow in those blood vessels reverses.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So the cooled blood that's coming from your facial region goes into that circulation and actually is a cooling source for the brain.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you can cool the brain, you can have a cooling effect on the brain by pouring water on your head.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Yeah, it's one of the natural mechanisms for cooling the brain.
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I'm aware of those ideas, but they're controversial.
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One of the things that you want to do for injury to the brain is to decrease swelling.
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And one of the ways that you decrease swelling in many parts of the body is to cool.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It decreases inflammation.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It decreases the blood flow.
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So...
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I think it's a really interesting topic, and it's something that should be investigated.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's kind of hard to investigate.
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This was a story that occurred early on in our investigations when we first made the discoveries that cooling has a benefit to increase your work volume, your capacity to do more reps.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So the word got over, I think, to the 49ers camp.
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And one of their players, Greg Clark, who was a tight end at the time, he had been tight end at Stanford, he decided to come over and check it out.
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So, Greg came over and we said, Greg, what are you good at?
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What activity do you like to do?
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He said, dips.
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I can do a lot of dips.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I can do 40 dips in a first set and I can probably do five sets.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
That's a usual workout for me.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And we said, okay.
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So he came over to the gym one day and that's exactly what he did.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
He did 40 dips, the first set, and then maybe 25 and 15 and down from there.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Can you recall roughly what kind of rest periods he was taking between sets?
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So several days later, he came back, and his first set he did, I think, maybe 42.
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Then his second set was, I don't remember the numbers, but very much above the second set on the control day.
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This was after we cooled his armor surface.
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He's sitting down and putting his hands in the devices that we had built, which were cooling the palms of his hands.
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Yeah, that's what we were doing.
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We standardized the interval for resting or cooling.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The point is he got to his fifth set, and all of the sets were above what he had done on the previous day.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And he said, you know, I'm not tired.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I can do another set.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And then I can do another set.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I can do another set.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I can do another set.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So from one day to two or three days later with cooling, he doubled the total number of dips.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Right.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So then he kept coming back for four more weeks, twice a week.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And by the end of that month, he was doing 300 dips.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So he tripled.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
He tripled.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
He essentially tripled.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Here's a professional athlete at peak physical conditioning, and he triples what he can do.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
We haven't done a lot in the field.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I mean, outdoors, most of our endurance has been in a hot room with treadmill work and so forth.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So the very first experiment, we had, I think, maybe 18 subjects just off the street.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
For this group, with one trial, with and without cooling, we could double their endurance.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Walking on the treadmill, walking uphill on the treadmill in the heat, like maybe 40 degrees ambient temperature, 40 degrees centigrade.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
They're doing it continuously.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
I see.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Because in the laboratory, we can suspend devices from the ceiling, for example.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Well, the company is Arteria, A-R-T-E-R-I-A, and the website is www.coolmit.com.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So coolmit is just C-O-O-L-M-I-T-T, coolmit.com.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The new version of the technology is sort of in beta test versions.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
We got it into the hands of people who had used the technology before.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So there's
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
NFL teams that are using, there's college teams, there's Olympics, there's the Navy SEALs, Major League Baseball, the NBA, the National Tennis Association.
Huberman Lab
Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
They have locations where now they are trying this out and reporting back, how's it working?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
How could you change it?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
How could you improve it?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Just cool.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Ice cold is too cold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So people always ask, well, why can't you just stick your hand in a bucket of ice water?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's too cold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
What that does is that causes reflex vasoconstriction of the very portals that you're trying to maximize the heat loss from.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you stick your hand in cold water.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
When it comes out, it's cold.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You just sealed up all the heat in your body.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Yeah, right.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
We, once again, had just standardized on three minutes.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And part of the reason for that is that the rate of heat loss is an exponentially declining curve.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And three minutes sort of gets the best part of the curve.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So you can go longer and get more benefit, but the biggest bang for the buck is in the first two, three minutes.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You know, it would be experimental.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Sure.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Your idea of frozen peas is a good idea.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
After you hold the cold peas in one hand and you switch it to the other hand, if someone then comes and feels your hand, is it warm or cold?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
If it's cold, it means you vasoconstricted.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
If it's warm, it means the hot blood is still going there.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And the key is for it to not vasoconstrict.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Or could I put my feet on them?
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The problem is back to boundary layers again.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
If you don't have a convective stream of the cooling medium, the heat sink is not as effective because there'll be a boundary layer developed between the heat sink material and your skin.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So that decreases its efficacy.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
But once again, it depends on the surface area to get any benefit at all.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
We have a study that we published, which was investigating the standard treatment for hyperthermia in the field.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
And the standard treatment that's recommended by medical organizations is you take cold packs and you put them in the axilla, the groin.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The armpits and the neck.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Mm-hmm.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
So what we did is we did studies in which we made people hyperthermic, and then we measured the rate at which we could cool them by putting those heat exchange bags in the recommended location versus palms, soles, and face.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The cooling rate was double.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
Wow.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You keep your gains.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It's a true conditioning effect.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You respond to the increased work volume.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
by all of those mechanisms you mentioned.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
You increase the number of contractile elements in your muscles.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
The muscles get bigger.
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Essentials: Increase Strength & Endurance with Cooling Protocols | Dr. Craig Heller
It was fun.