Dr. Dave Rabin
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is that if you look at medical history, right, and you look at going back to, you know, similar times where other illnesses have been treated the way that current mental illness is treated. So current mental illness, you get diagnosed with a mental illness. Most people are afraid of that diagnosis. The reason why is because we don't have cures for mental illnesses.
is that if you look at medical history, right, and you look at going back to, you know, similar times where other illnesses have been treated the way that current mental illness is treated. So current mental illness, you get diagnosed with a mental illness. Most people are afraid of that diagnosis. The reason why is because we don't have cures for mental illnesses.
As doctors in the psychiatry, psychology space, we don't talk about, hey, when you have depression, PTSD, oh, there's a cure. You're going to get cured. We don't use that terminology. What we say is you're going to get treated and treatment can last for a lifetime, right? So there's a difference between cure and treatment.
As doctors in the psychiatry, psychology space, we don't talk about, hey, when you have depression, PTSD, oh, there's a cure. You're going to get cured. We don't use that terminology. What we say is you're going to get treated and treatment can last for a lifetime, right? So there's a difference between cure and treatment.
Cure means you take something for a short amount of time and then you have a really good chance of no longer having symptoms for the rest of your life afterwards. And treatment means you are getting treated for a chronic illness that will in all likelihood exist for your entire life. And it will always have a high likelihood of coming back.
Cure means you take something for a short amount of time and then you have a really good chance of no longer having symptoms for the rest of your life afterwards. And treatment means you are getting treated for a chronic illness that will in all likelihood exist for your entire life. And it will always have a high likelihood of coming back.
That is the same way that infections were treated in the 90s, before the invention of antibiotics. You know, infections were considered a lifelong illness that was chronic. It resulted in early death or it resulted in loss of a limb. And there was no cure known for infections in almost every case until... Alexander Fleming, who I believe won the Nobel Prize for discovering penicillin.
That is the same way that infections were treated in the 90s, before the invention of antibiotics. You know, infections were considered a lifelong illness that was chronic. It resulted in early death or it resulted in loss of a limb. And there was no cure known for infections in almost every case until... Alexander Fleming, who I believe won the Nobel Prize for discovering penicillin.
And when Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin, all over the course of 20 to 30 years before we had double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trials, people started one-off or few-off testing penicillin to treat all these different kinds of infections.
And when Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin, all over the course of 20 to 30 years before we had double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trials, people started one-off or few-off testing penicillin to treat all these different kinds of infections.
And within 20 to 30 year period, we made one of the greatest discoveries in the history of science, which took infections, a terminal and often lifelong illness that shortened human lifespan by 10 to 30 years. And we made it curable. to the point where you could take a drug and do proper aftercare of your infected site of your body. It's not just the drug that's doing it.
And within 20 to 30 year period, we made one of the greatest discoveries in the history of science, which took infections, a terminal and often lifelong illness that shortened human lifespan by 10 to 30 years. And we made it curable. to the point where you could take a drug and do proper aftercare of your infected site of your body. It's not just the drug that's doing it.
The drug helps your body get into a state by weakening the bacteria or the infection. It helps your body get into a state to fight it off itself. So you still have to do the self-care as part of the antibiotic treatment. And within one to 12 weeks of taking an antibiotic, you're cured. Right. That changed everything for humanity.
The drug helps your body get into a state by weakening the bacteria or the infection. It helps your body get into a state to fight it off itself. So you still have to do the self-care as part of the antibiotic treatment. And within one to 12 weeks of taking an antibiotic, you're cured. Right. That changed everything for humanity.
Like that is the single biggest longevity and quality of life invention and discovery medicine that we've had in the last hundred years and maybe ever. And so next to handwashing. right? Next to hand washing. It's like the greatest discovery and so simple. And then you think about where we're at with mental illness, where mental illnesses currently are treated for life.
Like that is the single biggest longevity and quality of life invention and discovery medicine that we've had in the last hundred years and maybe ever. And so next to handwashing. right? Next to hand washing. It's like the greatest discovery and so simple. And then you think about where we're at with mental illness, where mental illnesses currently are treated for life.
They're basically chronic lifelong illnesses. Most cases they have no cure. And then you look at the MDMA assisted therapy trials and you see, which have been very excellently conducted. And you look at those trials and
They're basically chronic lifelong illnesses. Most cases they have no cure. And then you look at the MDMA assisted therapy trials and you see, which have been very excellently conducted. And you look at those trials and
55% of people who have had PTSD for 17 years on average that would likely be continuing to have it for life, 55% of those people with just three doses of MDMA-assisted therapy and 42 hours of therapy over 12 weeks are no longer meeting diagnostic criteria for PTSD two months after the treatment's over. Then you look at one year out, those same patients, that number goes up from 55% to 67%.
55% of people who have had PTSD for 17 years on average that would likely be continuing to have it for life, 55% of those people with just three doses of MDMA-assisted therapy and 42 hours of therapy over 12 weeks are no longer meeting diagnostic criteria for PTSD two months after the treatment's over. Then you look at one year out, those same patients, that number goes up from 55% to 67%.