Dr. Dave Rabin
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30% of people, there's still 70% of people who get treated with medications for PTSD that never get better. That was really surprising to me. And so I started to look outside the box to other things that could work, natural techniques. breathing, meditation, mindfulness, yoga, soothing touch, psychedelics.
30% of people, there's still 70% of people who get treated with medications for PTSD that never get better. That was really surprising to me. And so I started to look outside the box to other things that could work, natural techniques. breathing, meditation, mindfulness, yoga, soothing touch, psychedelics.
And I found through one of my colleagues who was interested in psychedelic therapy, she sent me 10 of the top papers that have been published around the world in leading journals, leading medical journals, basically studying psychedelic-assisted therapy for PTSD and trauma.
And I found through one of my colleagues who was interested in psychedelic therapy, she sent me 10 of the top papers that have been published around the world in leading journals, leading medical journals, basically studying psychedelic-assisted therapy for PTSD and trauma.
And as I started to read these papers, I realized that psychedelic medicines were actually working to help people heal from trauma by inducing a waking dream state with a chemical that you take from outside your body and put it in your body. And I was like, wow, this is really wild. And as soon as I read those papers in 2012, I realized that...
And as I started to read these papers, I realized that psychedelic medicines were actually working to help people heal from trauma by inducing a waking dream state with a chemical that you take from outside your body and put it in your body. And I was like, wow, this is really wild. And as soon as I read those papers in 2012, I realized that...
I could study dreams and do what I always wanted to do as a kid, but do it from the perspective of psychedelic medicine. And then down the road, sort of developed Apollo based on my research into psychedelic medicine. So that's kind of how that all came about.
I could study dreams and do what I always wanted to do as a kid, but do it from the perspective of psychedelic medicine. And then down the road, sort of developed Apollo based on my research into psychedelic medicine. So that's kind of how that all came about.
I mean, chronic stress is probably now more than ever due to the latest results and findings in neuroscience and population research around the world, especially since the COVID pandemic in 2020. I mean, it's probably one of the leading causes of all illness. And it's hard to quantify because we know that when you're physically stressed, we know the mind and the body are connected, right?
I mean, chronic stress is probably now more than ever due to the latest results and findings in neuroscience and population research around the world, especially since the COVID pandemic in 2020. I mean, it's probably one of the leading causes of all illness. And it's hard to quantify because we know that when you're physically stressed, we know the mind and the body are connected, right?
So that's kind of like one of the first core neuroscience teachings that is been found to be true, that was taught that is not the case many generations ago, starting with Descartes in like the 1800s, that this idea of the mind and the body are separate.
So that's kind of like one of the first core neuroscience teachings that is been found to be true, that was taught that is not the case many generations ago, starting with Descartes in like the 1800s, that this idea of the mind and the body are separate.
So a lot of the work we're doing now in neuroscience is to try to understand better how some of the ideas we had about how the mind and the body work and are connected are actually not the case. And there's more to it than we thought. So, you know, when you're stressed and you have a physical illness, what happens to your symptoms or your pain typically gets worse, right?
So a lot of the work we're doing now in neuroscience is to try to understand better how some of the ideas we had about how the mind and the body work and are connected are actually not the case. And there's more to it than we thought. So, you know, when you're stressed and you have a physical illness, what happens to your symptoms or your pain typically gets worse, right?
And so that's most people who have any kind of pain disorder or physical illness. If you've ever hurt yourself in any way and then you get stressed out, it increases inflammation in the area that's suffering the pain. And so that increases pain. And then if you don't treat that, you can get mental illness as a result of having untreated physical illness.
And so that's most people who have any kind of pain disorder or physical illness. If you've ever hurt yourself in any way and then you get stressed out, it increases inflammation in the area that's suffering the pain. And so that increases pain. And then if you don't treat that, you can get mental illness as a result of having untreated physical illness.
If you have a mental illness like depression, anxiety, PTSD, or any other mental illness, and you increase the stress in that person's life in whatever way, they will also have worsening mental health symptoms and their mental illness will become harder to treat. And part of what's happening is that the body has two major parts of its nervous system that are involved in the stress response.
If you have a mental illness like depression, anxiety, PTSD, or any other mental illness, and you increase the stress in that person's life in whatever way, they will also have worsening mental health symptoms and their mental illness will become harder to treat. And part of what's happening is that the body has two major parts of its nervous system that are involved in the stress response.
One of which is, and most people know about these two parts, but one of the parts is called the fight or flight response. or freeze response nervous system, which is called the sympathetic nervous system. That's not actually that sympathetic in the way we typically think about that word. But what it does is it protects us from survival threat. So it's a resource allocation system.
One of which is, and most people know about these two parts, but one of the parts is called the fight or flight response. or freeze response nervous system, which is called the sympathetic nervous system. That's not actually that sympathetic in the way we typically think about that word. But what it does is it protects us from survival threat. So it's a resource allocation system.