Dr. Dave Rabin

Right.

Or to play any sport by reading an instruction manual.

Like, we just don't do that.

Not much of an instruction manual guy.

Exactly.

But you're still learning.

Right.

And you're mastering because your body's leading the learning in those cases.

And so we learn everything by top-down and bottom-up together.

I see.

That's how we maximize learning.

That's very poorly taught.

But we're missing 50% when we only try to learn by...

understanding and not from the body so apollo is the bottom up tool that's like that teaches the body how to feel safe with yin and yang at the same time how to feel safe being sensitive how to feel safe being dominant how to feel safe in all these different situations where it's appropriate

right and then how to feel safe and not weak expressing ourselves and expressing and feeling our emotions and then the book is the top down which is the explanation of how it all works but we need both and so the body always needs its own instructions and so it's really when we think about learning in general aside from like apollo in the book just learning in general it's really about balance similar to what we're talking about with feeling and so that's why

Yeah.

So we're both rocking the conference vibe right now, which has a brand new vibe we just put out, which is like energizing social focus flow.

And, you know, just like you, you know, like I've been, I've been like staying up like three nights a week, all night, you know, cause I'd be 16 months old at home.

And so I can't write the book during the day then finish because I don't have any quiet time and it requires all of my focus to do this kind of work.

And then I'm running a company during the day and seeing patients and all that.