Dr. David DeSteno

I don't know.

Remember, I'm a scientist.

And so when I talk about these things, I'm not trying to reduce them anyway.

I'm saying, look,

We're embodied creatures.

We have a brain.

If I see God or hear God, my occipital cortex is going to light up.

Doesn't mean it's reducible to the neurons in there.

Just means that's what it is.

And so it's not for me to say whether they're actually hearing God or not.

But this emphasis on forming a relationship with God that is kind of two ways is a big part of the faith.

And those people report feeling a lot less loneliness.

And I think it's a way of solving the problem that we're sensing right now in this society, which is growing loneliness, a growing sense that no one values you, right?

No one has your back.

I was

Talking to Robert Waldinger, who was the head of the Harvard study on adult development, and I'm sure you've heard him say one of the biggest predictors for health is good personal relationships, but it's also having what he calls that 3 a.m.

friend.

It's that friend that you know you can count on.

That's not going to be like, Andrew, I can't help you move today.

Sorry, I got something better to do.