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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
But I do believe that if there's a drug that could treat some of them or a fraction of them that's already at our CVS, we got to find it.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
Yeah, you know, I mean...
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
There are a lot of drugs that can be used in multiple ways.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
Viagra is a funny one because not only, as you mentioned, did it go from heart disease to erectile dysfunction, but it actually is also used for this rare pediatric lung disease called pulmonary arterial hypertension.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
Kids were dying because they weren't getting enough blood flow to their lungs.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And a random doctor thought to themselves, huh, if...
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
This can increase blood flow for these older men.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
Could it maybe increase blood flow to the lungs of these little kids?
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And then it was tried and it worked.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And for me, those sorts of examples were like, you would never think of pulmonary arterial hypertension in little kids as being similar at all to erectile dysfunction, right?
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And it's because even though the conditions appear very different,
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
they share the same underlying problem, which is limited blood flow.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And so there's a lot of examples in medicine.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And there's another drug you've probably heard of called thalidomide.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
It caused all these horrible birth defects back in like the 50s.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
That drug can treat leprosy and also this blood cancer called myeloma.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And leprosy and myeloma, again, they seem so different, but they share the same underlying problem.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And so it turns out that just like you said, there are drugs that can do one thing in the body that can actually have an effect across multiple diseases.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
And typically, this is discovered through sort of random chance.
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#240 Dr. David Fajgenbaum - Can AI Find Cures to Rare Diseases Using Existing Medicine?
Like this doctor I mentioned in Houston who was like, huh, I wonder if Viagra could be useful for these kids.