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Dr. David Gwynn

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The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

The only thing that's specifically about the Manichaeans is they're also Persian, and that makes them even less acceptable.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

But it's only therefore around 300-302 that we get this law against Manichaeans, and we get the first stirrings of what's going to become the Great Persecution.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And do we know what happens during the Great Persecution?

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

This is where we do get lucky.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Because two eyewitnesses who survived the Great Persecution lived to write about it and write about it within the next 20 years.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So we have Lactantius, the North African Christian who was actually teaching Latin rhetoric in Nicomedia, Diocletian's residence, when the Great Persecution began and describes its very first edict going up and someone tearing it down and being burnt as the first martyr of the persecution.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And we have Eusebius of Caesarea, the church historian.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Caesarea is in Palestine.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Eusebius traveled around Syria, Palestine, and Egypt and recorded the violence that was done.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So we can actually reconstruct a significant portion of the Great Persecution.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

What we don't have is its motives, because we don't have any of the edicts.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Interestingly, Lactantius and Eusebius, we think independently,

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

blamed the same person which isn't diocletian it's galerius it's galerius of the original tetrarchs who's held as the most responsible but yet diocletian is the one who gets the blame pinned on him in later history right i wouldn't think of maximian with the great persecution no i it's remembered as the diocletianic persecution he is the senior augustus

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

It's sometimes been hypothesized that Galerius forced Diocletian into it.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

But firstly, Diocletian doesn't seem to be forced into doing anything else.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

But more importantly, ideologically, it does fit.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

If you're trying to present yourselves as delivering a recovery,

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

A key part of that, in a world where everybody believes in divine providence, is the religious element.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

You can see exactly the same thing with Augustus, the first emperor.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

A key part of how he presents his power is pleasing the gods, showing the religious harmony.