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Dr. David Gwynn

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The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

It began in the Persian Empire in the 3rd century.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

But while Mani, the founder of Manichaeism, claimed to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, his basic religious view is dualist rather than monotheist.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

which is in tune with the Persians, who are Zoroastrian dualists.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So it's a principle that there is light and darkness, and they are eternally in conflict.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And Manichaeism drew on Judeo-Christian ideas, Zoroastrian ideas, and Buddhist ideas entering the Persian empire through India to create a new potential global religion.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And Manichaeism then spread out

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

It's actually unique.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

It is the only religion ever persecuted by pagan Roman emperors, Christian Roman emperors, Persian shahs, Islamic caliphs, and Chinese emperors.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

No other religion ever achieved what I refer to as the grand slam of persecution.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And actually, the Manichaeans will survive until after AD 1000, when unfortunately, their last communities were on Genghis Khan's line of march.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

We don't think Genghis Khan had anything specifically against them religiously.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

They just were in the way.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So Manichaeism is a fascinating religion in its own right.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

But it makes it interesting that that seems to have been the first target.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Because we have an edict passed by Diocletian, we think in the year 302.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

that outlaws Manichaeism.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And the reason it's a very important edict, we don't have Diocletian's edicts against Christians.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

None of them survived.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So our closest indication of how Diocletian would have argued is in the edict against the Manichaeists, which is that people should be following the old traditional gods, not angering them with new customs.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

All of that could have been said about Christians.