Dr. David Gwynn

We've got 38 different genera, possibly tens if not hundreds of millions of them. We ought to see dead bodies all over the place with Clovis points stuck in them. And if, in fact, humans were responsible, then the extinction of those 38 genera should all have occurred within the window in which human hunters arrived and spread throughout the hemisphere.

We've got 38 different genera, possibly tens if not hundreds of millions of them. We ought to see dead bodies all over the place with Clovis points stuck in them. And if, in fact, humans were responsible, then the extinction of those 38 genera should all have occurred within the window in which human hunters arrived and spread throughout the hemisphere.

Oh, those are the weapons that are used by the folks who are blamed for the extinction, right? This is the first group of serious hunter-gatherers that we see. They come into the Americas sometime around, they are in the Americas, let me correct myself, around 13,000 years ago. They're around for 500 to 1,000 years, depending on where you are in the continent.

Oh, those are the weapons that are used by the folks who are blamed for the extinction, right? This is the first group of serious hunter-gatherers that we see. They come into the Americas sometime around, they are in the Americas, let me correct myself, around 13,000 years ago. They're around for 500 to 1,000 years, depending on where you are in the continent.

Oh, those are the weapons that are used by the folks who are blamed for the extinction, right? This is the first group of serious hunter-gatherers that we see. They come into the Americas sometime around, they are in the Americas, let me correct myself, around 13,000 years ago. They're around for 500 to 1,000 years, depending on where you are in the continent.

The Clovis point is the so-called smoking gun of the whole extinction scenario, all right? Okay, so we've got our two empirical tests. We should see lots of kill sites and the animals should all go extinct basically simultaneously, coincident with these Clovis groups, okay? All right, so the first test. We have looked at all of the claimed...

The Clovis point is the so-called smoking gun of the whole extinction scenario, all right? Okay, so we've got our two empirical tests. We should see lots of kill sites and the animals should all go extinct basically simultaneously, coincident with these Clovis groups, okay? All right, so the first test. We have looked at all of the claimed...

The Clovis point is the so-called smoking gun of the whole extinction scenario, all right? Okay, so we've got our two empirical tests. We should see lots of kill sites and the animals should all go extinct basically simultaneously, coincident with these Clovis groups, okay? All right, so the first test. We have looked at all of the claimed...

Sites for which it is said humans are responsible for the death of one of these giant animals. And there's about almost 100 of them. Of those claimed sites, only 16 of them actually give clear, compelling, and secure evidence that people were responsible for the death or the scavenging of the animal that was found there.

Sites for which it is said humans are responsible for the death of one of these giant animals. And there's about almost 100 of them. Of those claimed sites, only 16 of them actually give clear, compelling, and secure evidence that people were responsible for the death or the scavenging of the animal that was found there.

Sites for which it is said humans are responsible for the death of one of these giant animals. And there's about almost 100 of them. Of those claimed sites, only 16 of them actually give clear, compelling, and secure evidence that people were responsible for the death or the scavenging of the animal that was found there.

There's another element of that, which is that of those 16 kill sites, there's only mammoth, mastodon, gompothere, which is a form of mastodon, camel, and horse. Camel, wow. Yeah, Pleistocene camels. Pretty cool, huh? So there's only five of the 38 genera. have been found in these sites. What about the other 33?

There's another element of that, which is that of those 16 kill sites, there's only mammoth, mastodon, gompothere, which is a form of mastodon, camel, and horse. Camel, wow. Yeah, Pleistocene camels. Pretty cool, huh? So there's only five of the 38 genera. have been found in these sites. What about the other 33?

There's another element of that, which is that of those 16 kill sites, there's only mammoth, mastodon, gompothere, which is a form of mastodon, camel, and horse. Camel, wow. Yeah, Pleistocene camels. Pretty cool, huh? So there's only five of the 38 genera. have been found in these sites. What about the other 33?

We have absolutely no evidence of any kind of interaction of humans with these animals. Then the second issue, the timing issue. What we see is that most of these animals are actually not well dated. We know that only a limited number of them have radiocarbon dates. And of that limited number, less than half of all those animals

We have absolutely no evidence of any kind of interaction of humans with these animals. Then the second issue, the timing issue. What we see is that most of these animals are actually not well dated. We know that only a limited number of them have radiocarbon dates. And of that limited number, less than half of all those animals

We have absolutely no evidence of any kind of interaction of humans with these animals. Then the second issue, the timing issue. What we see is that most of these animals are actually not well dated. We know that only a limited number of them have radiocarbon dates. And of that limited number, less than half of all those animals

survive of those 38 genera, survive up until the time humans arrive, which means that some of them may have been gone long before people actually showed up on the landscape. So, how could they be responsible for the disappearance of an animal that happened 6,000 years before they even got there? There's a couple more pieces to that, okay?

survive of those 38 genera, survive up until the time humans arrive, which means that some of them may have been gone long before people actually showed up on the landscape. So, how could they be responsible for the disappearance of an animal that happened 6,000 years before they even got there? There's a couple more pieces to that, okay?

survive of those 38 genera, survive up until the time humans arrive, which means that some of them may have been gone long before people actually showed up on the landscape. So, how could they be responsible for the disappearance of an animal that happened 6,000 years before they even got there? There's a couple more pieces to that, okay?