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Dr. David Hagar

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22 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Yeah, I think of grandma.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

You know, people care about grandma.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

You know, if schizophrenia can be ballparked with dementia, then people might sort of get it.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

I remember I used to work in a family medicine doctor's clinic in Florida, and he wound up being elected to the Florida House, and I went and talked with him in his office.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

at a time when I was advocating for a state hospital to stay open, and it got closed.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

But, you know, I was talking about anosognosia, and I was asking, why is it that a woman, you know, who's 30 years old and neuropsychiatrically gravely disabled is sleeping under the bridge to stay away from the satellites, the satellite beams?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Why is that okay and considered freedom of choice?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

But if we find grandma wandering around the neighborhood...

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

we do something different.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

And his response was pretty blunt and it was pretty earthy.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

He said, people care about grandma.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

They don't give an F about that girl under the bridge.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

I forget what it's called, but there is a law.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

A lot of that is just fear of reprisal.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

If you err on the side of being too strict, then you can't get in trouble with Medicare.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

So in the spirit of education, education, education, I wonder, just wondering, should we plant the seed in high school?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Yeah, I remember that with my sister.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Our family normalized her oddities.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Yeah.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 3: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

It's just the way she was and eventually things fell apart.

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