Dr. David Spiegel

but you've got me there on the app and it's interactive so I asked how are you responding and depending on what you tell the app you get a different instruction so it is as much like well with me as possible and she said I woke up one morning after about five days of this Rosamund Dean is her name she's a lovely person and a great reporter

And she said, I looked at the clock sort of out of the corner of my eye and I thought, oh my God, it's 7.09 a.m. It's the first time I've slept through the night in a year. And so people can learn to incorporate it into their own practices now.

And she said, I looked at the clock sort of out of the corner of my eye and I thought, oh my God, it's 7.09 a.m. It's the first time I've slept through the night in a year. And so people can learn to incorporate it into their own practices now.

would say that people dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder and these severe things probably would benefit more from having a trained therapist helping them to do it but once you sort of set them on that path they can revisit it having learned what the experience is like and they can help them but more commonly we use it

would say that people dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder and these severe things probably would benefit more from having a trained therapist helping them to do it but once you sort of set them on that path they can revisit it having learned what the experience is like and they can help them but more commonly we use it

for more common problems, for distress, insomnia, pain, focus, things that are widely disseminated mental problems that we don't have nearly enough resources to help people with. So Reverie is a great way to say, try it for yourself and see what it feels like. And if you need the help of a professional along with it, by all means.

for more common problems, for distress, insomnia, pain, focus, things that are widely disseminated mental problems that we don't have nearly enough resources to help people with. So Reverie is a great way to say, try it for yourself and see what it feels like. And if you need the help of a professional along with it, by all means.

We have people... rate their level of stress or their level of pain pre to post within 10 minutes, the beginning of the interactive session to the end. And we find that four out of five of them report improvement of about one and a half to two points on a 10 point scale within 10 minutes. So, and reductions in pain, stress management, improving focus, So 80 or 90% report improvement.

We have people... rate their level of stress or their level of pain pre to post within 10 minutes, the beginning of the interactive session to the end. And we find that four out of five of them report improvement of about one and a half to two points on a 10 point scale within 10 minutes. So, and reductions in pain, stress management, improving focus, So 80 or 90% report improvement.

And so the great thing about this is you know right away whether you're going to feel better. I had one woman who was pregnant and had terrible lower back disease. And they couldn't give her opioids, thank God, because she was pregnant. And they implanted a nerve stimulator. It didn't work. And her pain was 7 out of 10.

And so the great thing about this is you know right away whether you're going to feel better. I had one woman who was pregnant and had terrible lower back disease. And they couldn't give her opioids, thank God, because she was pregnant. And they implanted a nerve stimulator. It didn't work. And her pain was 7 out of 10.

And the bigger the baby got, of course, the worse the pain was because it was pulling more on her spine. And so I had her imagine she was doing something that gives her relief, which is taking a nice warm bath. And if you think about it, so she has the opportunity to put her brain into the state it is in when she's got the pain, but she's in a warm bath. Mm-hmm.

And the bigger the baby got, of course, the worse the pain was because it was pulling more on her spine. And so I had her imagine she was doing something that gives her relief, which is taking a nice warm bath. And if you think about it, so she has the opportunity to put her brain into the state it is in when she's got the pain, but she's in a warm bath. Mm-hmm.

And our brain can recall that and see, well, okay, the pain signals are still there, but I can also imagine them being interfered with by this comfort that comes with a warmth. So she did. And she said the pain was down from 7 out of 10 to 3. But she looked angry. And I said, what are you angry about? She said, why in the hell are you the last doctor I got sent to instead of the first?

And our brain can recall that and see, well, okay, the pain signals are still there, but I can also imagine them being interfered with by this comfort that comes with a warmth. So she did. And she said the pain was down from 7 out of 10 to 3. But she looked angry. And I said, what are you angry about? She said, why in the hell are you the last doctor I got sent to instead of the first?

It doesn't seem real. If there isn't incision, ingestion or injection, you're not doing anything real. I'm a doctor. I use medications. I do a lot of other treatment techniques. But our brains are powerful things. And if we learn to use them better, we can be a lot more comfortable.

It doesn't seem real. If there isn't incision, ingestion or injection, you're not doing anything real. I'm a doctor. I use medications. I do a lot of other treatment techniques. But our brains are powerful things. And if we learn to use them better, we can be a lot more comfortable.

And unlike opioids, which killed 88,000 Americans last year alone, the worst thing that happens with hypnosis is it doesn't work. So we're finding from people using Reverie, and this is thousands of people, we have one study with stress reduction, 33,000 people get an average reduction of one and a half points in 10 minutes just using the app. So it's worth a try.

And unlike opioids, which killed 88,000 Americans last year alone, the worst thing that happens with hypnosis is it doesn't work. So we're finding from people using Reverie, and this is thousands of people, we have one study with stress reduction, 33,000 people get an average reduction of one and a half points in 10 minutes just using the app. So it's worth a try.

I worked with a Vietnam veteran who had been, he had just kind of gone berserk in Vietnam and nobody quite knew why, but he hijacked an ambulance and went out in the jungle and started shooting at people he thought were Viet Cong. And he wound up being hospitalized in a state mental hospital for a year because he was picked up in a drug bust. He was taking psychedelics.