Dr. Dean Lomax

And kind of out from that group evolve, you've got birds.

And so birds and dromaeosaurs are like very, very closely related.

Right.

And kind of when this big asteroid hit roughly 66 million years ago, T-Rex, Triceratops and co disappear.

The only one group of dinosaurs that survive are birds.

And so you've got 10,000 species of birds alive, which are really genuine dinosaurs.

So that pigeon that I just had a snack with outside, it was coming up to me.

I'm like, yeah, you're a dinosaur.

So ichthyosaurs, they were highly modified.

They had rather than kind of limbs with kind of like fingers and kind of...

developed feet and hands.

They had all these kind of things, but they were modified into flippers.

And they were literally just exclusively in the ocean.

So they were like dedicated marine reptiles.

Their bones in the skull, their jaws, how all the kind of individual bones fit together, they're totally different to dinosaurs.

And they have, if you went back far enough in time, kind of if you think of like a...

like a family tree, you've kind of got dinosaurs and kin, kind of dinosaurs and crocs.

They go down like one route and then they split.

Ichthyosaurs and things like plesiosaurs, they go down another route and split.

Yeah, so it's really, this is kind of one of the annoying things in some respects.