Dr. Dean Lomax

I remember one guy saying to me, you made an ass of yourself.

And I'm like, what?

Speaking to, you know, I think we had an audience of 3 million people and who are you speaking to?

Five.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

It's like, no, you should be doing outreach.

But you do get your criticisms in there.

And it's not all critical, of course.

Like I said, a lot of people are supportive, but you do get that.

And it's, you kind of have to, you quickly realize as well that you have to have a bit of a thick skin with it.

And just, unfortunately, you just get some arrogant assholes in the field.

I guess like every, every year, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah.

So it can be very competitive.

And I've had it where it does get very, there is quite a lot of like jealousy in the field as well.

And especially, you know, I'm very appreciative that I've kind of had the opportunities.

I've worked hard to get them into kind of media and doing talks and worked my kind of way up and experience presenting and that.

And people do get jealous of that as well.

But to me, it's kind of like, I think you've got to be doing that.