Dr. Dolly Alderton

And he goes, yeah, you can melt art.

for something else it's really interesting that I think like not to be so gendered about it but we are only ever gendered on this podcast but I do think that there's like a certain when people talk about getting comfort from their family and like wanting to hang out with their family I think chattering chittering oddballs like you and I we just want to like talk about our entire childhoods and be like what was that

back there and like really deconstruct every other member of the family and the aunties and the uncles and really talk about the big epic, as you say, and really understand how both of us are, you know, or how many of us are going through life with the burdens we hold from the life that we led, even though the burdens are literally zero.

But then there's another type of familial bonding where it's like a primate thing.

It's like I get comfort from being near you and sort of touching you a bit.

And I sort of having my leg near your leg.

Yeah, two weird little monkeys just getting a kind of a sort of a strange physiological comfort from just being in the same space as each other in a way that almost replicates childhood.

So you're like watching telly or sort of eating sweets.

kind of thing you know it's quite lovely really like I had this feeling a few I don't know what it was about a year ago having a visit home and like I had a pack of fags in my bag and me and my sister and my brother were just smoking a pack of fags in the back garden and I just had this feeling that even though we were talking about nothing that it was the happiest I had been in a year and

It wasn't that the conversation was very elevated or there was any things we were breaking through to.

It was like a physiological deep pleasure just from smoking snags with my siblings.

Yeah, it is sort of inexplicable.

I finally sort of got it, what people are talking about when you meet these families who are super tight and super close and they spend every Sunday together.

And it's hard for me to understand sometimes why people would do that.

And then I get that reverberation.

I'm like, oh, I do get it now.

Oh, yes.

I have seen clips of this.

Yeah.

Time gives life meaning.