Dr. Dolly Alderton

And you really sort of,

It makes him feel very real in a way that like sometimes... I think particularly in those early seasons, his grasp on... No wait, do you know what it is?

It's that he is more sexual in the early seasons where he's just like chasing skirt around New York or wherever.

And then he's more stupid in the later seasons.

So sometimes he feels like the most...

Ephemeral at times In terms of like Being a real human being Who really lives On planet earth And then when you see him Like cooking with his dad It just feels Just very Grounded Just very grounded Or whatever And those two actors Make him feel very grounded And um But anyway We'll get back to him In a second But in that same episode Phoebe is going out With the psychotherapist Who sort of diagnoses All of the friends It's

And everyone starts thinking it's really charming and really cool.

And they're all sitting around hearing about themselves.

And by the end of it, they hate that guy.

It's great, though.

It's really good, I think.

Do you do it?

You do it.

I do it a lot, and I think...

Actually, to go back to your earlier point about what makes an actually good writer, is it reading books and watching films or is it the quality of conversation?

Sometimes I do feel myself going into record mode, do you know what I mean?

Just being like, I'm just sort of sucking it all up from somebody because I just find them a bit fascinating.

And I'm like, all right, I'm just going to sort of spend the evening sort of extracting and it will come across as extreme care and intensity and connection because

gathering material what I'm really doing is gathering and it's such a it's such a boring cliche about writers of like oh don't she'll use your material or whatever and I think people think what that's going to be is that like you're going to talk to somebody for an evening and then the next time they pick up one of your books there you'll be but it's much more diluted than that it's like you're just like pumping the earth for resources and eventually that oil will turn into a necklace five years from now

that's such a good metaphor that is exactly what it is yeah it's and like then what happens sometimes is that like you this is so not about friends but um the is that you are so attentive in these moments that people think that it's the beginning of a great big beautiful relationship and it's like that sex in the city meme they like call you up on it a week later being like oh we should get lunch sometime and you're like who is this