Dr. Dylan Johnson

I don't know what I would say to Augustine.

I would just be very suspicious of his interpretation, considering the fact that, you know, the very first mitzvah, the first commandment humanity ever gets from God is.

be fruitful and multiply.

Off you go.

So I don't think there's any kind of sexual apprehensions, especially with the first man and woman there.

And of course, we know they do have kids.

They have Cain, they have Abel, they have Seth, right?

And, you know, the Bible does have euphemisms to describe sexual acts, laying down with someone, knowing someone, uncovering someone's feet.

So they do try to...

Well, he's certainly a passive agent initially.

Eve is taking on the lead role.

I've flipped the question on its head.

What is so bad that she gave us exactly, right?

So you could say, well, we're banished from Eden.

Okay, well, why would we want to stay in Eden, right?

Because what she ultimately gives us is consciousness and makes us a human being.

It makes us who we are, what separates us from the atmosphere.

Is that so bad?

Would be my response.

I don't think so.