Dr. Ellen Langer

The funniest thing is that if you have to wake up early in the morning to make a flight, okay, so you have to get up at 4.30 in the morning to make a flight, what most people will do is go to sleep early the night before so they can wake up early. but they're not going to be able to fall asleep because the amount of sleep they need is dictated by the day before, not the day to come.

Yeah. No, but it's also that... If you're not sleeping, what is the reason for that? And if you're stressed, you know, obviously it's the stress that's the problem, not the number of hours of sleep you're getting.

Yeah. No, but it's also that... If you're not sleeping, what is the reason for that? And if you're stressed, you know, obviously it's the stress that's the problem, not the number of hours of sleep you're getting.

Yeah. No, but it's also that... If you're not sleeping, what is the reason for that? And if you're stressed, you know, obviously it's the stress that's the problem, not the number of hours of sleep you're getting.

No, no, no, no, no. Counterclockwise? No, these were people who were 80. Oh, 80. Okay, excuse me. But also that was when 80 was 80, not the new 60. Right. They were old. In fact, I remember when we were interviewing, I was interviewing people to see if they could be in the study. So they're down the hall, I'm in my office, and I see them.

No, no, no, no, no. Counterclockwise? No, these were people who were 80. Oh, 80. Okay, excuse me. But also that was when 80 was 80, not the new 60. Right. They were old. In fact, I remember when we were interviewing, I was interviewing people to see if they could be in the study. So they're down the hall, I'm in my office, and I see them.

No, no, no, no, no. Counterclockwise? No, these were people who were 80. Oh, 80. Okay, excuse me. But also that was when 80 was 80, not the new 60. Right. They were old. In fact, I remember when we were interviewing, I was interviewing people to see if they could be in the study. So they're down the hall, I'm in my office, and I see them.

They look like they're not going to make it down the hall to the office. And I'm saying to myself, why am I doing this? You know, that I'm taking on too much. You know, in fact, had I realized all the responsibility at that point that I was actually assuming, I probably wouldn't have done it.

They look like they're not going to make it down the hall to the office. And I'm saying to myself, why am I doing this? You know, that I'm taking on too much. You know, in fact, had I realized all the responsibility at that point that I was actually assuming, I probably wouldn't have done it.

They look like they're not going to make it down the hall to the office. And I'm saying to myself, why am I doing this? You know, that I'm taking on too much. You know, in fact, had I realized all the responsibility at that point that I was actually assuming, I probably wouldn't have done it.

I mean, I was in charge of these people's lives, everything about them for, you know, for this five days without knowing these people, without a full medical, you know, support system or whatever. Yeah, one or two of them had died. You could end up in a mess. Yeah. Yes, I was fortunate that none of that happened. But, no, so they were old.

I mean, I was in charge of these people's lives, everything about them for, you know, for this five days without knowing these people, without a full medical, you know, support system or whatever. Yeah, one or two of them had died. You could end up in a mess. Yeah. Yes, I was fortunate that none of that happened. But, no, so they were old.

I mean, I was in charge of these people's lives, everything about them for, you know, for this five days without knowing these people, without a full medical, you know, support system or whatever. Yeah, one or two of them had died. You could end up in a mess. Yeah. Yes, I was fortunate that none of that happened. But, no, so they were old.

And it was interesting because, you know, they show up and they look really... Now it would probably be somebody 105. That's the way they, you know, present it. And you'd speak to the person and usually the adult daughter would do the answering rather than, you know. So they were coddled. They were presumed to have all sorts of problems and so on.

And it was interesting because, you know, they show up and they look really... Now it would probably be somebody 105. That's the way they, you know, present it. And you'd speak to the person and usually the adult daughter would do the answering rather than, you know. So they were coddled. They were presumed to have all sorts of problems and so on.

And it was interesting because, you know, they show up and they look really... Now it would probably be somebody 105. That's the way they, you know, present it. And you'd speak to the person and usually the adult daughter would do the answering rather than, you know. So they were coddled. They were presumed to have all sorts of problems and so on.

Almost instantly when they got there, they changed. The feeling was almost palpable. Now, I did this thing. It wasn't good science, but so the first group that we took there was the reminiscent group. This was a group where they were going to reminisce for that week. So they always knew now was now and then was then, right? That was a control group. We get to the retreat and I'm in this van.

Almost instantly when they got there, they changed. The feeling was almost palpable. Now, I did this thing. It wasn't good science, but so the first group that we took there was the reminiscent group. This was a group where they were going to reminisce for that week. So they always knew now was now and then was then, right? That was a control group. We get to the retreat and I'm in this van.

Almost instantly when they got there, they changed. The feeling was almost palpable. Now, I did this thing. It wasn't good science, but so the first group that we took there was the reminiscent group. This was a group where they were going to reminisce for that week. So they always knew now was now and then was then, right? That was a control group. We get to the retreat and I'm in this van.

People need to understand the study was back before Google, before we had the internet. So when I am... playing music in the van going to the event, music from the past. This was a major thing to find this. Now it takes two minutes. You ask Chad lately, give me the 10 best songs back 20 years ago. At any rate, so I'm on the bus with them, music from the past playing.