Dr. Eric Haseltine

Yep.

For whatever reason, like the Russians do this all the time.

They call it Moskerovka.

They make us think they can do things that we never thought they could do to deter us.

Right?

And so I asked, this is what I used to do at Disney, fake things.

And I talked to this guy, Cliff Wong, who was the world's expert on drones.

And I said, if you wanted to fake X, Y, or Z, how would you do it?

And so he told me, he said, well, what I do is I would have a big, a huge balloon here that was towed by a little teeny drone.

And you'd think it was this big orb when in fact it wasn't.

So we get into all the ways of fake, but getting back to the plasma, I said, these glowing orbs could be free space plasmids that are being directed by a laser.

Right.

Well, it turned out there's a Navy patent to do exactly that, to draw things in the shape of an airplane to fool missiles.

Yeah, and it would do everything that these orbs are doing.

It's not.

It has zero mass.

If something is moving in a way that no mass could, maybe it doesn't have any mass.

And the Roosevelt and the Omaha.

Exactly.

And CCTV also.