Dr. Eric Haseltine

You know, he'll go do anything.

And I said, that's not your call.

You know, she said, well, we can't let him go off on a, you know, a tangent.

I said, but that's not your call.

She said, well, yeah, it is.

And that's the reality.

And you see, when that happens, people's trust in the intelligence apparatus starts to erode.

And I will tell you, I didn't see a lot of that, but it happens.

Their worry was flight safety over everything.

MKUltra.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I don't know.

I wouldn't go that far.

I will tell you this.

The Russians take this stuff way more seriously than we do.

And to the extent that in chess matches, they would have something like beaming negative mental energy at our opponent of a Russian, you know, and the Russians are much more open to things that we aren't.

Both good and bad.

And I think that some of the biggest discoveries in this area probably will be the Russians because they have much more open minds than we do.

I think they tend to be more spiritual and mystical maybe than we do because of their history.

But, you know...