Dr. Eric Haseltine

So it's unclassified.

But you're seeing exactly what happens in the super secret world of intelligence analysis.

I've exposed it in that book.

And in the novel, I expose the politics and the sausage mating and all the dirty dealing that happens under the hood in the intelligence world.

It's fascinating.

Well, I should also say I was a psychotherapist for a while.

And Freud said something really true.

What you see on the outside is the opposite of what's on the inside.

If you see a really hard, tough exterior, it's protecting a soft inner side.

Where someone who's very centered and isn't very aggressive or...

doesn't have to talk a lot or whatever.

They're very solid inside very often.

They're very centered.

And so we have these two characters, the main character and his love interest, and they both present kind of the opposite on the outside.

of what's really going on.

And so through their relationship, you start to see that the, the layers peeled back.

And at the end, at the climax, if you will, both metaphorically, um, they kind of expose the vulnerable side of themselves to each other, which is an emotional growth for the two of them.

But, um,

I think, and what this comes out in, we'll call them the romantic scenes.

I think it's very, very... Well, what she's referring to is...