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Dr. Erich Jarvis

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Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

The second thing that's useful to know

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

is that all vocal learning species use their learned sounds for this emotional, affective kind of communication.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

But only a few of them, like humans and some parrots and dolphins, use it for the semantic kind of communication we call speech.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And that has led a number of people to hypothesize that the evolution of spoken language of speech evolved first for singing, for this more like emotional kind of made attraction, like the Jennifer Lopez, the Ricky Martin kind of songs and so forth.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And then later on, it became used for abstract communication like we're doing now.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

You ask a great question because we both know some colleagues like Winrich Freibold at Rockefeller University who study facial expression and the neurobiology behind it.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Non-human primates have a lot of diversity in their facial expression like we humans do.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And what we know about the neurobiology

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

of brain regions controlling those muscles of the face is that these non-human primates and some other species that don't learn how to imitate vocalizations, they have strong connections from the cortical regions to the motor neurons that control facial expressions.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And even though it's more diverse than these non-human primates, there was already a pre-existing diversity of communication, whether it's intentional or unconscious, through facial expression in our ancestors.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And on top of that, we humans now add the voice along with those facial expressions.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

So it's like an email too.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

You're emailing and someone says something by email.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Someone can interpret that angrily or gently and it becomes ambiguous.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

The facial expressions get rid of that ambiguity.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

What I think is going on is to explain what you're asking is about

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

I'm going to take it from the perspective of reading something.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

You read something on a paper, the signal from the paper goes through your eyes, it goes to the back of your brain to your visual cortical regions eventually, that visual signal then goes to your speech pathway in the motor cortex in front here in Broca's area, and you silently speak what you read in your brain without moving your muscles.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Sometimes, actually, if you put electrodes, EMG electrodes, on your laryngeal muscles, even on birds you can do this, you'll see activity there while reading or trying to speak silently even though no sound's coming out.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And so your speech pathway is now speaking what you're reading.