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Dr. Erich Jarvis

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Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And that's what I learned growing up as well and talked to Peter Mahler himself about before he passed.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

He used to call it the innate predisposition to learn.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

All right, so, which would be kind of the equivalent in the linguistic community of universal grammar.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

There is something genetically influencing

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

our vocal communication on top of what we learn culturally.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And so there's this balance between the genetic control of speech or a song in these birds and the learned cultural control.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And so, yes, if you were to take

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

um you know um i mean in this case we we actually tried this at rockefeller later on take a zebra finch and raise it with a canary it would sing a song that was sort of like a hybrid in between we call it a caninch right and vice versa for the canary because there's something different about their vocal musculature or the gen or the circuitry in the brain

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And with a zebra finch, even with a closely related species, if you would take a zebra finch, a young animal, and in one cage next to it, place its own species, adult, male, right?

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And in the other cage, place a Bengalis finch next to it, it would preferably learn the song from its own species neighbor.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

But if you remove its neighbor, it would learn that Bengalis finch very well.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Fantastic.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

So it has something to do with also the social bonding with your own species, right?

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

What is going on here is cultural evolution remarkably tracks genetic evolution.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

So if you bring people from two separate populations together that have been in their separate populations, evolutionarily at least,

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

for hundreds of generations.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

So someone's speaking Chinese, someone's speaking English.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

And that child then is learning from both of them.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Yes, that child is going to be able to pick up and merge phonemes and words together in a way that an adult wouldn't.

Huberman Lab
Essentials: The Neuroscience of Speech, Language & Music | Dr. Erich Jarvis

Because why they're experiencing both languages at the same time during their critical period