Dr. Gabor Maté

Right.

They have no choice.

Yes.

I'm saying, but this society puts so stresses on women.

It then doesn't support them to the pregnancy.

Then it puts a lot.

And not only that, we didn't grow up in individual

isolated nuclear families, did we?

We evolved in small band hunter-gatherer groups where people supported each other, where children were with adults all day, where adults collaborated.

They had to, otherwise they wouldn't have survived.

So that's where our nature actually evolved.

So when you get this society which tells you that people are by nature selfish and aggressive and competitive, which isolates mothers,

in separate homes where the community is more and more, you know, there's lots of work done by sociologists and others in the States about how communities are breaking down.

There was that book, Bowling Alone, some years ago, 20 years ago now, about the breakdown of community so that people are not getting support.

And that means they're stressed.

Exactly.

So it's a very unnatural culture.

And no wonder so many kids are getting diagnosed with ADHD or oppositional defiant disorder or depression.

There's an article in The New Yorker a few weeks ago, maybe a couple of months ago, also in The New York Times, I think, about the rising rate of...

and suicide in the U.S.