Dr. Giulia Enders

other effects it will for example train your heart and lungs a bit more and this can also be good against things like anxiety because anxiety can develop just by your body suddenly having a faster heart rate breathing a bit faster and this slows down when you have exercise that makes the heart stronger so it doesn't have to beat so fast so there's multiple aspects that come from different types of training and i would always encourage people to really try out and just see for yourself when you feel best

Because that's also the downside of sports.

People do it and then they hate it and then they just stop doing it because it doesn't feel good.

So I think the really first thing to start with is finding something that feels relatively good and then stick with it and then go from there.

Is there anything that we haven't discussed that you'd really like to mention to someone who's thinking about how they can keep their immune system better balanced?

The only thing I would really want people to know is just that they have this genius side of being a living being and that this is also something and that this is counterweight to this loud, noisy, challenging outside world that is good to have as well.

But, you know, have this counterweight and know more about it so you can actually really feel and get into that.

I think that's a very good antidote to a lot of the things we're experiencing in this time.

Amazing.

I'd like to do a quick summary of maybe some of the highlights on what we've touched.

And please correct me if I get any of it wrong.

No, I'm curious now.

The thing that is most lodged in my brain is this amazing fact that you said that if you keep drinking sugary drinks, then actually over 20 years, you're basically going to have this higher level of inflammation.

It's going to boost these immune cells.

And actually, you're more likely to get an autoimmune disease like rheumatoid arthritis.

So it's amazing this direct link just from having more sugar.

Diabetes and depression also, by the way.

The other thing I'm really struck by is this idea that the whole language that we use to describe the immune system might be a product of the time when the scientists were first understanding it.

It was like at the time of World War I and World War II.

And so all the focus is on killer cells and thinking about