Dr. Glen Jeffery

I think that that story, there was a story out of Sweden.

There was also a story out of the University of East Anglia.

And we're talking big numbers.

We're talking very big numbers on that.

So it could have a lot of points that we don't quite understand yet, but I think the solid thrust of it, and the interesting thrust of it for me is that that all caused mortality, flagships up.

on that are cardiovascular disease and cancers.

It's not the obvious ones that we'd be thinking about.

So yeah, let's use the term unpacking.

That one definitely needs unpacking.

But from a public health perspective, that's an important area.

Yeah, sure.

That area is expanding enormously, and it's expanding enormously in lots of little pockets, and the pockets weren't always talking to one another very well.

The first person that came along and said, look, longer wavelengths are really positively affecting

mitochondrial function, was a lady called Tina Carew in Russia who was very largely ignored.

I think she's still alive.

I would love to buy her a glass of champagne, if only because she started it off.

She kickstarted it off.

But she was very much of the opinion that mitochondria absorb long waves of light.

Parts of the mitochondria absorb it.

One of my studies to try and pin this down