Dr. Helen Bond

They're innovators.

They're advocating things that a lot of other people are interested in, purity, resurrection, messiahs.

They're perhaps seen as the people less tainted by Roman involvement.

But most people, you know, most people like a Pharisee.

They're the good guys.

And I think it wouldn't do us any harm to think of them like that.

Yes.

Well, this is with the great Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones, who I know has been on your podcast a lot, professor in ancient history at Cardiff.

And it's called, our podcast is called Biblical Time Machine.

And yeah, we have guests.

We do everything to do with the Bible, Hebrew Bible, as well as Christian Bible, everything in between.

If it's got Bible somewhere along the line, we're interested.

Thank you.

It's been great.