Dr. Howard Schubiner

So when you just take those two things together, what you come to is that, number one, all pain is generated in the brain and all pain is real. Not imaginary, not fake. There's no such thing as, well, this pain is real because I have an injury and this pain isn't real because I don't have an injury.

So when you just take those two things together, what you come to is that, number one, all pain is generated in the brain and all pain is real. Not imaginary, not fake. There's no such thing as, well, this pain is real because I have an injury and this pain isn't real because I don't have an injury.

Because research shows that stress and emotions activate the exact same parts of the brain as does a physical injury. And this is mind blowing. And again, straight neuroscience. And if, and if stress and emotion can activate the same parts of the brain as a physical injury, then the pain that results from stress and emotion and the pain that results from the physical injury are the same pain.

Because research shows that stress and emotions activate the exact same parts of the brain as does a physical injury. And this is mind blowing. And again, straight neuroscience. And if, and if stress and emotion can activate the same parts of the brain as a physical injury, then the pain that results from stress and emotion and the pain that results from the physical injury are the same pain.

Because research shows that stress and emotions activate the exact same parts of the brain as does a physical injury. And this is mind blowing. And again, straight neuroscience. And if, and if stress and emotion can activate the same parts of the brain as a physical injury, then the pain that results from stress and emotion and the pain that results from the physical injury are the same pain.

It's all real pain.

It's all real pain.

It's all real pain.

Yeah. There's three ways of thinking about pain. Three models. One model is, and lots of people believe each of these models. The first model is what I would call the biomedical model, which means that all pain is created by a physical injury. And a lot of people believe that, and a lot of doctors believe that. And this can't possibly be 100% true because, as we'll see and we'll talk.

Yeah. There's three ways of thinking about pain. Three models. One model is, and lots of people believe each of these models. The first model is what I would call the biomedical model, which means that all pain is created by a physical injury. And a lot of people believe that, and a lot of doctors believe that. And this can't possibly be 100% true because, as we'll see and we'll talk.

Yeah. There's three ways of thinking about pain. Three models. One model is, and lots of people believe each of these models. The first model is what I would call the biomedical model, which means that all pain is created by a physical injury. And a lot of people believe that, and a lot of doctors believe that. And this can't possibly be 100% true because, as we'll see and we'll talk.

But that's one model. And that model works for certain types of illnesses. If you have an abscess on your spine that's causing severe back pain and you have surgery and you take it out, pain will be healed. If you have appendicitis with severe abdominal pain, take it out, it'll be healed. So this biomedical model is very...

But that's one model. And that model works for certain types of illnesses. If you have an abscess on your spine that's causing severe back pain and you have surgery and you take it out, pain will be healed. If you have appendicitis with severe abdominal pain, take it out, it'll be healed. So this biomedical model is very...

But that's one model. And that model works for certain types of illnesses. If you have an abscess on your spine that's causing severe back pain and you have surgery and you take it out, pain will be healed. If you have appendicitis with severe abdominal pain, take it out, it'll be healed. So this biomedical model is very...

helpful and useful for certain kinds of illnesses but it can't possibly apply to all illnesses so what then people who became were more enlightened in the in the field of pain back we're talking about

helpful and useful for certain kinds of illnesses but it can't possibly apply to all illnesses so what then people who became were more enlightened in the in the field of pain back we're talking about

helpful and useful for certain kinds of illnesses but it can't possibly apply to all illnesses so what then people who became were more enlightened in the in the field of pain back we're talking about

60s 70s 80s or so they began to realize well the brain plays a role and the spinal cord plays a role and you can have pain due to an injury but the brain can damp it down or the brain can make it worse and so that led to the second model of pain which is called the biopsychosocial model and the biopsychosocial model is the dominant model throughout all of pain management

60s 70s 80s or so they began to realize well the brain plays a role and the spinal cord plays a role and you can have pain due to an injury but the brain can damp it down or the brain can make it worse and so that led to the second model of pain which is called the biopsychosocial model and the biopsychosocial model is the dominant model throughout all of pain management

60s 70s 80s or so they began to realize well the brain plays a role and the spinal cord plays a role and you can have pain due to an injury but the brain can damp it down or the brain can make it worse and so that led to the second model of pain which is called the biopsychosocial model and the biopsychosocial model is the dominant model throughout all of pain management