Dr. Howard Schubiner

in the world and all the top centers that do pain management use the biopsychosocial model. I trained in the biopsychosocial model. I have a picture of George Engle on my wall up on top there who developed biopsychosocial models. There's nothing wrong with that model. It's a great model.

in the world and all the top centers that do pain management use the biopsychosocial model. I trained in the biopsychosocial model. I have a picture of George Engle on my wall up on top there who developed biopsychosocial models. There's nothing wrong with that model. It's a great model.

in the world and all the top centers that do pain management use the biopsychosocial model. I trained in the biopsychosocial model. I have a picture of George Engle on my wall up on top there who developed biopsychosocial models. There's nothing wrong with that model. It's a great model.

But it turns out that that model is really best applied to illnesses that have a physical component and a mind-body component where you have both. And then that model allows people not just to give medical treatment, so people in this pain management model give medical treatment, they give physical therapy treatment, they give

But it turns out that that model is really best applied to illnesses that have a physical component and a mind-body component where you have both. And then that model allows people not just to give medical treatment, so people in this pain management model give medical treatment, they give physical therapy treatment, they give

But it turns out that that model is really best applied to illnesses that have a physical component and a mind-body component where you have both. And then that model allows people not just to give medical treatment, so people in this pain management model give medical treatment, they give physical therapy treatment, they give

um cognitive behavioral therapy type treatments to help cope with the pain better from a psychological point of view they use acupuncture they use medication so it's kind of a you know all hands on deck let's let's approach it from a variety of ways which which would make perfect sense that seems to make perfect sense we'll do a little bit of everything but that model is not working

um cognitive behavioral therapy type treatments to help cope with the pain better from a psychological point of view they use acupuncture they use medication so it's kind of a you know all hands on deck let's let's approach it from a variety of ways which which would make perfect sense that seems to make perfect sense we'll do a little bit of everything but that model is not working

um cognitive behavioral therapy type treatments to help cope with the pain better from a psychological point of view they use acupuncture they use medication so it's kind of a you know all hands on deck let's let's approach it from a variety of ways which which would make perfect sense that seems to make perfect sense we'll do a little bit of everything but that model is not working

That model works as pain management. That's what its goal is, pain management. But if you ask, have you ever been in chronic pain? If you've talked to people who have been in chronic pain, they don't want pain management, really. Yeah.

That model works as pain management. That's what its goal is, pain management. But if you ask, have you ever been in chronic pain? If you've talked to people who have been in chronic pain, they don't want pain management, really. Yeah.

That model works as pain management. That's what its goal is, pain management. But if you ask, have you ever been in chronic pain? If you've talked to people who have been in chronic pain, they don't want pain management, really. Yeah.

Right. And I'm sure anyone who's listening now, everyone who's listening now knows somebody, as you do, family member, friends, colleagues, business partners, who are either suffering or have suffered with chronic pain of some form or another. And I can guarantee they don't really, their goal isn't like, let me just manage it. Yeah, that's great.

Right. And I'm sure anyone who's listening now, everyone who's listening now knows somebody, as you do, family member, friends, colleagues, business partners, who are either suffering or have suffered with chronic pain of some form or another. And I can guarantee they don't really, their goal isn't like, let me just manage it. Yeah, that's great.

Right. And I'm sure anyone who's listening now, everyone who's listening now knows somebody, as you do, family member, friends, colleagues, business partners, who are either suffering or have suffered with chronic pain of some form or another. And I can guarantee they don't really, their goal isn't like, let me just manage it. Yeah, that's great.

And I'm not knocking this field, the field is doing the best it can, but their view of chronic pain is that it has to be managed. Their view of chronic pain is number one, we don't understand why it's there, it's chronic, it's persistent. We haven't really found exactly why it is, and so we'll try to do everything about it to manage it.

And I'm not knocking this field, the field is doing the best it can, but their view of chronic pain is that it has to be managed. Their view of chronic pain is number one, we don't understand why it's there, it's chronic, it's persistent. We haven't really found exactly why it is, and so we'll try to do everything about it to manage it.

And I'm not knocking this field, the field is doing the best it can, but their view of chronic pain is that it has to be managed. Their view of chronic pain is number one, we don't understand why it's there, it's chronic, it's persistent. We haven't really found exactly why it is, and so we'll try to do everything about it to manage it.

Our goal is to manage it, and that's the goal of the psychological therapies of cognitive behavioral therapy and acceptance and commitment therapy and mindfulness-based therapies, the three major, major psychological therapies for chronic pain.

Our goal is to manage it, and that's the goal of the psychological therapies of cognitive behavioral therapy and acceptance and commitment therapy and mindfulness-based therapies, the three major, major psychological therapies for chronic pain.