Dr. Ivana Hughes

Could you steel man the argument for nuclear deterrence or mutually assured destruction, as people put it?

Because I think, you know, there are probably many people justifiably saying, like, there's been two nuclear bombs that have gone off, you know, against a nation with civilians.

And in 80 years, that's basically all there's been.

And, you know, that's pretty good.

So maybe it is working and maybe it does actually make the planet safer.

Yeah.

Could you steel man what that argument is?

Poor Carolinas.

That seems personal at that point.

I might have been a scientist with like an ex-wife or something.

And they retaliate.

Yeah, it's just, again, I'm finally now at this point in my life, maybe having children has helped.

I'm just realizing just like the threat is not like a regular bomb.

It's not like a gun.

It's imagine, okay, no more nuclear weapons, but we put a massive explosive device in the center of the earth.

And it literally, if you push a button, the earth will crack apart and everything will eviscerate and we'll all float into space and gravity will cease to exist.

And every person dies.

And you give 10 countries, Russia, India, Pakistan, France, America, China, you give all them the button.

Is that a world we want to live in?

Like, is that really the situation?