Dr. Ivana Hughes

But I guess, I'm curious what you think.

To me, my...

The thing that I lean on that makes me feel better to this hope conversation that we had is, you know, I hope for a better world.

I hope that humanity is intelligent enough that it's conscious enough to want to preserve itself.

And I hope that the people in charge don't want to rule over ashes and that they want to have thriving societies and that they love humanity as much as I do and that they would want it to persist.

And there's a part of me that also hopes that there is a God that is in some way

divinely guiding these things and again that is just a hope that i have and in terms of what i can do like you know i can spread awareness and discuss it with people and have it like in my mind when i'm considering elections and things like that and i don't know this is maybe trite but to me the thing that gives me solace is just tending to my garden

This is kind of a stoic idea, but Mother Teresa says, if you want to change the world, love your family.

And if every person on earth just loved their family, I do think that the ripple of that, like think of Putin or Kim Jong-un or Trump, if they loved their family so much, then maybe they would think twice about using these types of weapons and maybe they would really consider disarmament because if you love your family and you love your grandkids, you don't want them to live in a world where this is a threat after you're gone.

So, I don't know.

What do you think about the hope issue?

Absolutely.

Well, Ivana, thank you so much.

I know that I told you that this would be a shorter episode, but I think I lied.

We had a wonderful conversation.

I really appreciate you being here and just, yeah, using this platform to share your message.

Truly, I'm inspired by your love for humanity, and I wish more people had that perspective.

I think humanity is worth fighting for.

Thank you so much.

And if there's anyone watching at home, if there's anything that I missed or if you have a legitimate kind of pushback to this idea of disarmament, I would love to know what you think.