Dr. James Fitzsimmons

At least according to reports, at least, Pizarro had some cannons and they didn't know what to do.

Like, they had no response to cannons.

And so they just killed a whole mess of them.

And by that point, people didn't know, like, how much ammunition.

There's no concept of ammunition or what they've got.

It's confusing.

If you've never seen, you know, if you've never seen cannons before or firearms before, it's a scary thing.

So they just kind of, like, scatter.

Like, ah!

And by that point, they've got the Emperor and they've got the Emperor and, like, tell them to stop, you know.

And they stop.

It's a hostage thing.

wow yeah and and then do they kill the emperor uh they get first they get to get they get the emperor to sort of make all these decrees to give them gold um and after you know in exchange for being a hostage and yeah eventually they do just kill him wow it's the same playbook that the uh that the that the uh spanish did with the aztecs like they they take the emperor hostage and eventually uh and eventually kill him yeah do they ever take these people back to spain

No.

Well, there are examples where people get taken back to Spain or seem to be taken back to Spain.

But no, not the high-ranking folks.

Yeah.

What can you say to that?

So they're not going to... The city of gold myth may derive from...

There were some there were some indigenous groups that I think I want to say the leader would like put gold dust on themselves.